CompuServe Thread

James, I saw your message about your interest in Christian History, are you pro or con? That is, are you wanting to know more about Christian History because you like to know how our founding fathers intended this nation to be founded on the Word of God. Or are you looking at it as a critic looking for weaknesses the way History is being re-written. Former I hope. And, if the former is true, I share your interests. I haven't heard the term self-perpetuating bodies applied to federal and local governments before. Where did you catch on to that, Rush? I agree that government's objective has seemed to be justifying itself and building a need for its power rather than empowering the private sector to reduce it's need on such governing and meddling. Wow, how did we get into this in ASOFT. Tell me, what do you see as a possible way of furthering the new grass-roots conservative agenda in the Multimedia market. Be talkin to ya, Eddy

Hey Murph' >> I would hope that you could agree with me that self-prepetuating bodies weaken local self-government. << Is that "perpetuating"? <g> I thought about it and then realised that you can take that two ways, and then I understood what you were getting at. Government is self perpetuating in the sense that it needs to continue, but what you're expressing is that government should not be self perpetuating, in that it continues to grow, or in the sense that it is only looking out for its own best interest. And of course this is a complex issue especially in the context of Christianity and the Constitution. (Which BTW you might be interested in a very good book of the same name by John Eidsmoe – Baker Publishing) The two most influential proponents of "self perpetuating" government (see what I mean about slippery to define), where Abraham Linconln and Franklin Roosevelt. And that really does show the magnitude and complexity of the issue. There was total anarchy under the Article of Confederation and had the Constitution had an anti-slavery provision (which equated to a states rights issue) it never would have been ratified. But as a result we later had a civil war. The worst in history. That being said how do I answer your question? Ideally a government neither too strong or too weak, but that is also dependent on the circumstances in which it finds itself. Some would agrue that a national government and a state government is a redundancy and double taxation as well. So we'd have to chomp through a lot of ground to come to a serious consensus on our interpretation of "self-perpetuating" government. I hate clever answers but you got one anyway, because its a very complicated issue and I don't know how you avoid it when you broach the subject. FWIW I don't find state government any better, so I'm not sure transferring power there is the answer either. So you can slap me silly <g> but that's the best answer I can give you.:-) BTW not to change the subject but how familiar are you with the Ill Pro? Martin's been asking some questions and I don't want to lead him astray, which is why I ask. I've got the CAV board too which seems to overide the RGB function which affects the resolution switching, which was one of his questions. This board is about 3 times more complicated than a Targa to fully fathom, and its got so many different configuration possibilities.. well I think you get my point. Thanks, John

Hi Albert, Its been awhile since we've exchanged perspectives. I hadn't thought about it that way and you're probably right. In this political climate, Mr. Nunn would have the best chance of pulling it off with the voters I think. Whether or not that is true. I admire the man alot. Real solid but not overbearing. To tell you the truth I don't think Phil Grahame has a chance either although they say he's got a really well organised campaign going. I think of it this way, the run for the Presidency is a beauty contest, so pretty boy Quayle has a better chance of getting nominated, which would insure the re-election of Clinton. That to me is a more likely scenario just because I can't stand either one. <g> And just to be opinionated, I think they ought to lock Bob Dole up in the Senate for the duration. He makes a great Senate Crumudgeon! <BG> John