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#The ASDG Abekas Driver

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#68064From: Stephen GrisezNov 24, 1993 9:49 AM
Gary, I noticed that you were quoted in an add. "I've never seen our work look this good on video before. I'm never going to use a frame buffer for our demo reels again." The word never seemed real strong… Am I missing something here. All I ever here is everyone uses "BETA SP" $9000 w/o drivers and hardware to connect to it. Well, I have: 6mo. ago 5,500 used – 3/4" V0-5850 SONY w/ diaquest card and software (I would love to sell it.) 3mo. ago 2,000+ and – another diaquest card and software/ActionAnimator for BETA SP decks. This is AWSOME using the AnamaquePC with QUICK PASS. 300 frames in about 10-15minutes. I love this stuff… This solution "sounds" great, is it really? and how do I get output from this device to BETA SP which seems to be the standard? Stephen
#68076From: Yost GroupNov 24, 1993 10:19 AM
Gary's out of town until the beginning of December. I'd recommend you resend your message at a later date. – Jack
#68106From: ALAN IGLESIASNov 24, 1993 11:42 AM
Steven, GaryY meant what he said, I think, about the quality of video/CGI using the ASDG/Exabyte/Abekas route. There is just no better way (save maybe HDTV, but that's not here yet…) to get your animations to video. The whole thing is digital CCIR 601 until you dub down to a master, BetaSP if you wish. -Alan Iglesias
#68154From: Stephen GrisezNov 24, 1993 2:33 PM
Alan, Do you have any idea of cost, not about the drive and software to get out to the 8mm tape, but rather, hardware/software to get out to BETA SP. Stephen Do you know of anyone who wants to swap a 3/4" umatic w/diaquest and cables for an ASDG Abekas Driver and Drive <g>?
#68161From: CSA/CANov 24, 1993 3:30 PM
Gary had access to Digital videotape, using the ASDG driver to write TGA files to an Exabyte 8mm digital tape deck (often used for tape backups). No frame buffer is needed, since no analog video signal is being recorded. This format is then loaded at a service bureau into an Abekas digital disk system, which then records in real-time chunks (maybe 30-50 seconds) to whatever video format you'd like. I think Gary went to D1, then dubbed down to the other delivery formats. In your case, your Diaquest will control a Betacam SP deck to record better than the VO-5850. You still need to connect a frame buffer (such as Targa or Vista) and run the proper video signal into the deck. For Betacam component output, you would use a separate transcoder to convert the RGB output of the frame buffer.
#68396From: Stephen GrisezNov 26, 1993 10:43 AM
My V0-5850 and Diaquest optoin are both rapidly becoming a paper weight. I have the diaquest card to output to BETA SP. I really like the results. I also like, equally as much as the quality, the speed at which I can send a batch of targa files out to BETA SP. Using Anamaque PC with the QUICK PASS option, I can output 300 frames of tga files in about 10-15minutes. To get the same results out to tape (minus the quality) it would take about 2+ hours. As for the ASDG, is it fast. Can I get ouput as fast or faster than I am getting to BETA SP? Also, if I can get output onto this tape, what am I going to do with it? Does it play back on my VGA screen? Can I get composit out to a consumerbrand VCR or component out to BETA SP for the additional cost of cables? Of corse this assumes that I would already have the ASDG deck $2500/software $500 and a BETA SP 10,000 to 15,000 <g>. OOPS, I forgot the consumer brand VCR $150. Or is my only option to use a service as you were describing? If so, who?
#68448From: CSA/CANov 26, 1993 6:50 PM
The ASDG software would be for output by service bureau only – there is no video playback.
#68482From: Don LandisNov 27, 1993 2:44 AM
Stephen, I too am looking forward to the day when my VO-5850 becomes a paper weight. NOT! Because I'll probably be too old to do this stuff and paper will be long since gone anyway. Instead I hope to augment with a realtime animation recorder. It will do 300 frames out to most forms of video in 10 seconds not 10 minutes, or almost 2 hours as my 5850 will do. Check out the DPS-PAR or the Bandit before buying. This new technology deserves consideration.
#68540From: SCOTT HIGGINSNov 27, 1993 2:30 PM
Has anyone heard about the Matrox MAX animation recording solution. I just requested more information on this product. I am already using the ILL-Pro frame buffer so I would only need to purchase the Studio-Xpress JPEG compression board. This solution is supposed to output realtime animation at broadcast-quality from your hardrive. All processing is done at 4:2:2 digital-component full CCIR-601 resolution, 60 fields per second and user selectable output quality. I had been looking at the Studio-Xpress along with the Studio editing suite for a non-linear editing solution. From what I have heard you can expect Beta-SP or better output quality from the Studio-Xpress option. SSH –Graphic Realities–
#68605From: Don LandisNov 28, 1993 4:59 AM
There are several new technologies for non-linear editimg and real time animation recording that will be hitting the market early in '94. Question is do we buy now and be on the cutting edge or wait for the dust to settle, about June or July for the refinements and lower prices to hit the market. I feel that by the end of '94 we will have animation output boards as the first choice and frame accurate tape as a quickly dieing technology. As one who has suffered through the trials of tape for many years I personally an looking forward to the day when frame accurate recording can be retired with my MFM hard drives and tube cameras.
#68629From: SCOTT HIGGINSNov 28, 1993 11:41 AM
>> Question is do we buy now and be on the cutting edge or wait for the dust to settle<< Yes, that has been a real delima when buying any cutting edge equipment. If you wait a while there will always be better equipment at lower prices. When do you draw the line and go ahead with a purchase? I also am looking forward to the day when use my frame accurate VTRs as expensive realtime animation recorders.