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New iss of Planet Studio

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#137309From: David RhotenNov 21, 1994 3:28 PM
Barbara: I just got the "second" issue of Planet Studio, and I must say I am dissapointed. The cover story, which takes up almost a fifth (3 of 16 pages) of the issue, is a review of 3DS r4. Now, I'd wager that anyone who's willing to shell out $100 for 96 pages a year already HAS the new r4 release! (That's $2.88 for a review on a product you already own.) This is followed by a page ($0.96) of press releases — ALL of which are in at least two other magazines to which I subscribe (and I pay much less for press releases in those mags). I've got no problem with the articles by Ed Kellerman, John Ellis or Brian Rudolph. As for the reviews of Mirage, Liquid Speed and Penello, I was afraid that I'd find them to be 100% pro — and while the first two were, I have heard the praises of Mirage sung by many, and I happily own LS — the Pennello review does have two negative comments (even though they were small). Now, I'm not looking for bad reviews, just realistic ones. Most software has SOMETHING not to like about it — that's why there are upgrades!<g> The reviews of 3DS-related books were welcome, and I'd like to see you expand this area to include books about animation and movement (like the Muybridge books that have often been recommended on this forum). As for Brian Rudolph's "Ask Doc Planet", I have the same criticism for this that I do for all similar columns in all periodicals — Who is it who has time to write down their question/problem and send it in to a magazine, who may or may not choose it as one to be answered, and then wait for a couple months to see if there's a solution? From glancing over the questions in this issue, it looks more like a partial FAQ list — which is fine, but I think it would maybe be a little better if maybe Brian didn't stick to the Q/A format so religiously. In other words, if he, from his perspective in Autodesk, sees some issue that obviously needs addressing, based on support calls, dealer feedback, CIS questions, etc., he could take the whole page to discuss the issue in depth. I think Jonas could write some great stuff for this mag too, FWIW. While I think this newsletter may hold some promise, I don't think I can justify the price based upon current content. There's just too much wasted space (literally and figuratively), and it seems like you don't really grasp the niche market that you could be filling. I don't want the info I can get in CADANCE, CADalyst, CGW, Computer Artist, 3D Artist, Computer Pictures, etc. I want something unique, and something more than I get from the time I spend on CIS daily. And right now, I just don't see that. I think I'll be sending my invoice back "CANCEL". Dave
#137465From: llaflammeNov 22, 1994 1:55 PM
Hello Dave, Ouch! I had to read your message twice before I realized that you were happy with 12/16 of the content! 😉 And really, that pleases me, because this is only the first "real" issue of the newsletter (Bill Allen told me it took him several issues to "get it right"). Besides, although I'd love to please everyone all the time, I know that's not possible. But I want to address the issues you brought up. Obviously, a number of people who read Planet Studio will already own R4. But I've seen a lot of people here and on the Internet questioning current owners, asking whether the upgrade is worth getting. And that's what this article aims to tell. Plus, to give an idea of what's possible with the new release. I too am sorry it could not fit onto 1-1/2 pages instead of 2-1/2 (not 3–the TOC and title take up 1/2 page). But it needed big graphics and I did not want to compromise the text, either. I agree it is long; I'll choose to err the other way in the future. Still, I hope other people find it helpful. If not, we won't do this type of thing any more. On a related note, you'll see the text point size go down in the next issue to accommodate more info. I don't want people to have to use a magnifying glass, but I think it can stand to shrink. So you found nothing in the news section that you hadn't known? Geez, I'm really sorry to hear that. I will certainly pull that section if it proves useless. But I also realize that you personally subscribe to *lots* of publications, as well as CIS–and not everybody has all those resources. So maybe you're in the minority. I'll wait to hear from more people before deciding to yank it. By the way, your cost calculations are not based on the charter subscription rate, which will remain in effect for the forseeable future. So the news page really costs $0.61 and the R4 article and images $1.80. 😉 I'm glad you like the articles by Ed, Dave, John, and Brian. These guys are great, as are the other writers I get to work with. And I'm glad the reviews were 'critical enough.' They're there to explain products objectively and to help you make buying decisions–and because people on this forum asked for them! I ask the writers to tell the truth and disclose what kinds of users will be best served by the product. I don't care whether the overall impression is good or bad–just as long as it's helpful and honest. I'm happy to know you liked the book reviews, too. While Planet Studio will stick mostly to things related specifically to Autodesk products, I'm willing to cover related stuff as well. I suspect the Muybridge theories are covered well elsewhere, but maybe not. For instance, Digital Video magazine did an "Animals in Motion" series in the August/September and October/November '93 issues. As far as the Doc Planet column goes, you're right–who wants to send in a question and wait 2 months to see whether or not it'll be answered. So if Brian chooses your question to include, we'll get back to you with an answer right away. The Q & A bit is really just a format, though. We were going to do it as tips, but there's another tips column (readers' tips) on the way. Doc Planet is perfect for questions small in scope. What you suggest about using a whole page to discuss an issue in depth–that's an article! And believe me, Brian, myself, and other of our current and potential contributors are on the lookout for those kinds of questions to answer in full-blown articles. Ah, Jonas. I too think he could write some great stuff. Unfortunately, he's been too busy to write (I know; I've asked). Keep watching, though; I'm persistent! 🙂 At $59/year the price Planet Studio is high. But our goal is to make it worth it! It is a newsletter–not a magazine–so you won't see ads. And unfortunately, we don't see the market being big enough to support the economies of scale needed for a lower price. Believe me, we have only lost (I mean invested!) money in this publication so far. But if it does, we'll certainly lower the price. (There are business reasons for that, not just altruistic!) The ideas and tips you'll get from it will be at least as useful at $59 as a plug-in will be at $295. (Incidentally, if you're spending time on CIS daily, you're shelling out a lot more than $59 a year!) You're dead wrong about my not grasping the niche we should be filling. I don't want to duplicate what's in CADENCE, CADalyst, CGW, or any of the others, either. This is the ONLY publication to focus SOLELY on Autodesk multimedia, and that's the audience we're here to serve. Planet Studio has the resources of Digital Video magazine, we're fortunate enough to have a terrific stable of contributors, and I personally have 7-1/2 years experience in computer graphics/publishing. What's more, I am truly committed to making this a great publication. Even though your criticism may sting, I find it immensely helpful. So thanks, really. I hope that you will give us another chance. I will listen to your requests and do what I can to fulfill them. So keep the comments coming. And we'll keep improving Planet Studio with each issue. I promise.
#137474From: Aaron W. OstlerNov 22, 1994 2:33 PM
Barbara, Sounds good to me. How do I sign up? :> I'd also love to get a copy of that first issue. Aaron
#137848From: llaflammeNov 24, 1994 11:23 PM
Hi Aaron, Sorry so slow to respond… The best way to sign up for Planet Studio is to call 1-800-441-4403 during Eastern Standard Time business hours. It's no problem to get a copy of the freebie sample issue–just tell Debbie (that's who you'll talk to!) that you want it. Thanks for your interest. And please let me know what you like, don't like, and would like, okay! Thanks Aaron, –Barbara
#137702From: David RhotenNov 23, 1994 4:19 PM
Barbara: I understand that it can take some time to get in "the groove", but that's exactly why I've tried to be harsh this early on — to try to make it take _less_ time than it might otherwise — and thus to make each issue worth more than the price I'm paying. The other problem I have with a 3DS review is that this is a dealered product. Isn't it the DEALER's job to provide the demo/overview of the product? Sure, he's trying to sell something, but he also should be able to provide specific answers to specific questions — and for something as complex as 3DS, AND when the probibility that the reader already owns or uses a version of the program, I'll bet a 2-1/2 page review isn't going to be able to cover the fine points of the questions that person may have. As far as diminishing the text size, I think that's a good idea. There are quite a few magazines directed at the PC-Video/CG/Animation market available gratis for those who qualify. Laserprint the press releases (in B/W) on a separate sheet and stick it in the envelope (get the releasors to foot the bill) — just don't waste a full page of 4-color/glossy to do it, especially, as I say, it's information that people can get elsewhere. I'm out here in Wichita, Kansas, but I can go down to the big-chain bookstore and find CGW, Computer Artist, CADENCE, and quite a few others on the shelves. Just don't backtrack over ground that others are covering, is all I'm saying. Let me put this another way: 1)There are no ads to underwrite publishing costs, so all costs are carried by the subscriber. 2)You print product reviews, which, if favorable, amount to advertising for the creator. 3)Creators of products want you to print "free" announcements. 4)See item #1. Yes, to some extent, the "free" announcements are a "public service", but again, AVAILABLE ELSEWHERE. Yes, I was basing my prices on the PUBLISHED rates, as listed in the "premiere" issue. If you've changed that, then I stand corrected. I understand the fiscal problems associated with doing a non-ad underwritten publication for a small niche market — but if you don't fill the niche for me, then I can't help with your publication costs. >>(Incidentally, if you're spending time on CIS daily, you're shelling out >>a lot more than $59 a year!) I feel I'm getting MUCH more out of my daily CIS excursions than for what I am paying. Again, that's not the feeling I've gotten yet from PS. Oh, and it's $59.95/year. I didn't mean to say you didn't understand the publishing business — I just meant that you seemed to want to bite off too much for a 16-page publication. I haven't yet made up my mind about the subscription…. Plus, we've been without a bookkeeper for a few weeks, so it's extra tough to get things processed, but I'm thinking on it.
#137969From: llaflammeNov 26, 1994 12:15 PM
Hi Dave, Thanks for the time you've put into letting us know what you want. Your points are well taken. Be assured that we'll be considering them when planning future issues. You're right, it does "take some time to get into the groove" when trying to target the editorial. You're also right that feedback will help us do it better and faster. We'll certainly consider *any* feedback–harsh or not! –Barbara
#138248From: SyndesisNov 28, 1994 10:34 AM
Let me get this straight: you're willing to pay $5-10 an hour for CompuServe because you absolutely must know every possible hint and tip for 3D Studio within hours of its public disclosure, but you're disappointed when a relatively less expensive alternative (Planet Studio) doesn't have even more new information and up-to-date news? What do you want, a personal tutor who was taught at Tom Hudson's knee? I think what you want are hard-won secrets, and those are very, very expensive. Heck, I'd pay $200 an issue for a newsletter called "Things You Don't Know Yet."
#137659From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Nov 23, 1994 12:17 PM
I can't comment on the other parts of your critique, I'm sure Barbara has enough. However as far as my own "Doc Planet" column goes… The question and answer format is just that…a format. Nobody really sends in questions and expects to wait two months for an answer. The questions in that column are chosen by two criteria: 1) I have been asked that question time and time again, so a lot of people must need that clip of information, or 2) I find a snippet of information that is very interesting and I think would help out a large group of people (whether or not I have been asked that question a number of times). As for the request to expand some of the questions into full page detailed answers, that's what the articles I write are! I have been asked more times than I can remember, How do you convert FLC to AVI and back. So I wrote a more detailed answer to that question. If you know of topics that you think a lot of people need mor information on, please bring them to my attention! I want to write articles that will be useful to as many people as possible.
#138286From: David RhotenNov 28, 1994 12:04 PM
I guess Brian what I object to is the implication that "Joe Smith from Michigan writes, "Dear Doc Studio, I have been having a problem…" is a specifically submitted question. Really, this falls more under a "Dave's Pet Peeves" heading than a mag criticism. Many magazines do this, and it just irks me. The Aldus magazine specifically states that the q&a stuff they print for their various products comes from FAQ on the tech support lines, etc. Planet Studio says something like, "If you have a question for Doc Hollywoo (– oops, _Studio_ <g>), send it to, etc…". That's not to say that you _wouldn't_ answer a submitted question, should it be deserving, but the little italic text could read "Questions are a mix of submissions and FAQ's from Autodesk's support services" or something. Okay, so I'm picking nits. I've got to have SOMETHING as a hobby, don't I? <g> Keep up the good work! Dave
#138533From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Nov 29, 1994 11:04 AM
<< "Dave's Pet Peeves">><<Okay, so I'm picking nits. >><< what I object to is the implication that "Joe Smith from Michigan writes, "Dear Doc Studio, I have been having a problem…" is a specifically submitted question>> Well Dave, You are definitely picinicing…uh..I mean..pit sitting…er..you know. <g> Actually, most of them are submitted questions. Either to me in Product Support, or here on Compuserve, or via the internet or Global Village…or by being stopped in the hall by some Autocad tech…<g> They have been asked and answered, and now I am recounting them in PS because I thought it was a useful question. Ah well…you may be right. As a format it might leave something to be desired. But I feel, if the information gets out to the public, I don't care what format it gets there in. -Brian
#137843From: Tim Krego, [pro.image]Nov 24, 1994 10:43 PM
>>>I just got the "second" issue of Planet Studio, and I must say I am dissapointed. <<< I would like to see a format similar to Lightwave Pro. The have plenty of tips and techniques in each issue by people that work on Babylon 5, seqQuest, etc. I would compare it to the 3DS Special Effects book, only not as big or split up into 12 issues. Of course, I don't see a need for Planet Studio when I can get more info right here.
#138287From: David RhotenNov 28, 1994 12:04 PM
>>Of course, I don't see a need for Planet Studio when I can get more info >>right here. Right now Tim, that's my feeling exactly. I feel that PS COULD be great — I'm just hoping and waiting (and ranting! <g>). Dave