#Elect Day et.al.
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PMFJI….But speeking of loose cannons, did you all catch Jesse Helms
warning to Clinton? Now theres a loose atlas missile!!!
Boy, the funs just starting
The Bobster….going Amiga 'til the hard drive dies.
He should be tried for treason. He said he thinks Clinton is not a fit
Commander in Chief, he said the armed forces agreed with him, and he
warned Clinton that if he was stupid enough to go to South Carolina he
should bring a bodyguard (as though any President wouldn't).
Imagine the response if some Democrat said something like that about a
Republican. And every conservative around is bemoaning the so-called
leftward bias of the media. The media may possibly have a leftward lean,
albeit a slight one, but that doesn't stop them from circling over and
then descending to devour any public figure who shows the least little
sign of vulnerability. It's all sales sales sales and ratings ratings
ratings.
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
Ah, you haven't heard? He said today that he was speaking informally, and
tongue in cheek. The *reporter* who was interviewing him said the same, and
doesn't understand why the story went out the way it did. It seems the wire
services found the story irresistible if it was played to put JH in a bad
light, so they did. For some reason, the press doesn't LIKE Jesse Helms.
-Karl
Obviously you don't know what treason is. This ain't a monarchy or
dictatorship whiere a perceived 'threat' against the leader is treason. Praise
the Lord for big favors!!!!
Oh, so threatening the life of the President isn't treason? I have news
for you: it is.
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
Since when?
Ooops, you're right, it might fall under the aegis of conspiracy to commit
treason. BIG FORKIN DIFFERENCE! IT'S ILLEGAL!
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
guess what, the description of treason is in the constitution. Killing (or
attempting to kill) the president ain't it. Mayhaps you should learn to read
before you try to write.
Of course it's illegal, it ISN'T TREASON!!!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure that assasination of the President is considered treason
nowadays. It may not be explicitly named as such, but I think it is
considered so. And conspiracy to commit treason is a pretty major crime.
Furthermore, violating one's oath of office may well be high up on the
list of heinous crimes too.
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
> I'm pretty sure that assasination of the President is considered treason
> nowadays.
"pretty sure' are you?
It is SO typical of the left wingers to argue from a position of wishful
thinking; of arguing from a viewpoint of what they think something should be.
Tell me, Paul, do you have a copy of the Constitution of the United States?
If not, I would be glad to send one to you in machine-readable format, so that
you will be able to actually look things up. Of course, this would mean that
you would henceforth have to argue from a positoon of knowledge and fact,
eschewing the wishful thinking and 'should be' arguments.
> It may not be explicitly named as such, but I think it is considered so.
If it is considered so, whoever is so considering it that way is wrong. Flat
out wrong. It is not explicitly named as such, and in fact, treason is
specifically defined and stated to be something else entirely. Your argument is
the fuctional equivalent of a man with a broken leg saying that his broken leg
should be a warm blanket so that it wouldn't hurt.
> And conspiracy to commit treason is a pretty major crime.
Might well be. In this case, whether it is or not is completely irrelevant.
> Furthermore, violating one's oath of office may well be high up on the
> list of heinous crimes too.
Might well be. Do you have a point to make> Are you claiming that Helms
violated his oath of office? If so, please specify how he did that.
-larry
You arch-conservatives are so consumed with hatred that you won't even
admit that what Helms said is reprehensible, coming from a man of his
position. It's pathetic, and brightly illuminates the gross degree of
your hypocrisy.
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
Paul,
What Helms said wasn't reprehensible…it was stupid to say in front of
reporters…but that's all.
Don
Boy, you are terribly mis-informed.
1) By NO stretch of the imagination am I conservative.
2) I never said it was a particularly wise comment; as a matter of fact, I
haven't commented one way or another on it except to note it isn't treason. If
you had the sense of a 1st grader, you'd go find a definition of treason before
you continue to make a fool of yourself.
I defy you to find any hypocrisy (sic) in what I've said.
He did not threaten the life of the President.
-sja
He basically incited people to violence against the President. I think
that qualifies as conspiracy to commit treason, though maybe not treason
itself.
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
He did not incite anyone. He made an offhand, joking comment to a reporter.
Joking. Right. If a Democrat said something like that, there'd be a
witch-hunt and then a dead Democrat.
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
Watch it Paul, you've just "threatened" both witches and Democrats. I think
you've just committed a conspiracy to commit a conspiracy to commit treason.
<G> Except it's not treason to threaten witches or Democrats, even if I
had!
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
Paul,
It's not treason to threaten witches or Democrats? Well, you've got both
currently residing in the White House, so, according to your theory of
conspiracy, you've threatened both.
Guess again 'legal eagle' and go read the constitution. You have no clue what
treason is.
> He basically incited people to violence against the President.
I didn't hear that. Care to post the exact statement(s) where yoiu claim he did
incite people to violence aganst the president?
-larry
He said something like that if Clinton values his hide, he won't go to
SC military bases, after saying that neither -he- nor the military thought
that Clinton is an acceptable Commander in Chief.
Paul – wearing my black construction paper funeral suit
Right… and that is NOT a threat. Nor is it treason or conspiracy to commit
same.
-larry