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#ASDG-RAM

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#97523From: Roger F. BeckerDec 9, 1987 3:40 PM
Is it me, or is there some trick to getting ASDG's Recoverable RAM Disk to work with my Amiga 2000 with 3MB and a 20MB hard drive? The device mounts, but without all the files that were in it before reset. What's the story? Any and all help appreciated. Roger
#97536From: Glenn NielsenDec 9, 1987 5:14 PM
Roger, Mount VD0: must be the first command in your startup-sequence, followed by dir >nil: VD0:. That's what I use, and the RRD has worked fine on my 2000 with 3Mb, A2090, and 40Mb HD. <Glenn
#97537From: Marlene ZenkerDec 9, 1987 5:15 PM
Roger, there have been a few solutions here – but the one that Perry recommends and that I use with no problems is to have run system/SlowMemLast as the very first thing in your startupsequence (note: even before mount vd0:). Try it and let me know if you still have problems with the RRD recovering. Marlene
#97902From: Perry S. Kivolowitz/ASDDec 11, 1987 6:22 PM
Arrrrrgggghhhh!!!! Exactly the wrong thing to do Marlene! Running SlowMemLast at all will seriously degrade the recoverability of ram disk. This is because the operating system will smush the 512K of slow fast ram every time it comes up. Since the rrd uses the top most memory first (and slowmemlast puts the slow memory at the end of the memory chain) the rrd will then use the slow memory FIRST and not get recovered. The solution here is to have CBM hurry up with 1.3 which I understand will not smush the slow fast ram on resets. Who told you that anyway? 🙂 Perry
#97910From: Marlene ZenkerDec 11, 1987 6:59 PM
You did, and my RRD always recovers. Before I put that in it never recovered. Marlene
#97952From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 11, 1987 10:14 PM
Perry, With a 'plain ole 1 Meg' A2000, I had to change bufMemType from 5 to 3 and then RRD worked fine. With it set at 5, it did get 'smushed' on warm-start. Don
#98244From: MICHAEL R. YOUNGDec 14, 1987 12:55 AM
Perry: I'm the one you took to task for criticizing ASDG's quiet implication that the ASDG/RRD would work with any memory. (I had an old COMSPEC memory expansion that had to be upgraded/modified to support your RRD) . In your words 'well designed memory' should have no problem! . Well! I'm hearing more and more reports about problems with the ASDG/RRD: From local gossip, to electronic media(AMNEWS) and now AMIGAFORUM message threads. . One opinion has it that the ASDG/RRD is only 100% with ASDG/RAM! . Apart from the occasional problem of lost files after a warm restart the only solid problem I've encountered is losing an icon moved onto the workbench screen, out of VD0: This I attributed to some quirk of AMIGADOS; I live with it since I find the RRD worthwhile! . However there is a more fundamental issue of some people not being able to use your RRD at all, and they don't know why! . There is such a thing as marketing integrity! Whilst I realize your 2meg RRD is public domain; you 8meg is not. If I can't get your public domain RRD to work I will think twice about buying your 8meg version (something I am considering). . When someone turns to this forum for help I would expect the vendor/manufacturer/author to be one of the first; not the last; and not full of arrogant diatribe! . (fixed in next release is for the big guys who can afford to make their customers wait! criticizing another users comments on what worked for them and just might work for someone else reflects badly on ASDG!) . To be blunt, Perry, less of the 'what won't work' and more of 'what could work or should work' . Regards . Michael .
#98250From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 14, 1987 2:02 AM
Michael, To have a Recoverable Ram Drive obviously requires that the RAM being used NOT get cleared during a warm-start. Since each manufacturer has it's own way of handling a reset, how can you possibly blame ASDG for what happens when you warm-start a machine? If the board manufacturer holds off refresh or automatically clears the memory on reset, that's not Perry's fault. And in those cases…can you show me any program that will recover that cleared memory? I think Perry (or ASDG…whatever) did the Amiga community a service by releasing the 2 Meg version of RRD for all to use. The software does work as long as the hardware works, I don't think you can ask any more than that. Don
#98252From: Ben BlishDec 14, 1987 2:18 AM
Michael, the RRD works fine with my insider, my friends AMEGA, another friends B2000… the 2 meg pd version. I think you need to think a little bit about what you're saying. When a "few" of "many" ram expansions don't work, where is the fault likely to lie? Personally, I have a high degree of confidence in the RRD. And Perry. –Ben–