CompuServe Thread

#Internet

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#7851From: Kathy NasaraDec 3, 1990 6:53 PM
Thanks for the help. Internet does sound intriguing; I am a university prof–that sounds academic enough–but do you know how I can find out more about accessing it? If so, let me know. Thanks again, Kathy
#7886From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 3, 1990 9:21 PM
Kathy, I know your message was to Scott – but here comes, anyway. There should be someone on your campus called the System Administrator for the computer systems, and anyone in the computer science department should be able to point you to him. This person should be able to tell you all about Internet, set you up with an account, etc. If you do get an account and want to use the mail system and read the messages there, I would suggest that you read a book called UNIX COMMUNICATIONS, from the Waite Group, Howard Sams & Company. It is an excellent introduction to it. It won't tell you ALL about it, but it will take you a long way. Betty
#7925From: Kathy NasaraDec 4, 1990 6:45 AM
Thanks, Betty. I'll try to find out from the University today, and hope they're agreeable–I have visions of a suspicious comp sci person saying, "And just WHY does an art historian need Internet anyway?" under the glare of an interrogation bulb! And maybe the book you've suggested will finally tell me why I need Unix (almost all my programs support it, so I might as well understand it). Kathy
#7942From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 4, 1990 12:26 PM
Kathy, The Unix Communications will only tell you how to use the mail system – not about the underlying operating system. It will help you to navigate, though. Prepare for some frustrating hours learning to use VI (their text editor). There are some good books introducing the Unix operating system, but I cannot think of one at the moment – sorry. I borrowed one or two a while back, but have returned them. Betty
#8062From: Beth GaynorDec 5, 1990 3:17 PM
About VI… your best bet is to simply change to a different editor… they have Emacs available! (It's what I use.) But now I can't remember how to change it over– that's my fiance's department. (His is Internet, mine is CompuServe!) I'll try to find an answer of how to avoid VI and get it back here! –Beth
#8143From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 6, 1990 1:10 AM
Beth, I have several choices of editors at SMU, but of the ones they offered to me, VI is the best choice – and it truly is powerful, just cryptic and hard to learn. I do fairly well with it now. Actually, I usually call up VI, flip over to WordPerfect and write my answers, then save them to RAM: and move them over to VI with SnipIt. I find that much easier. It is also possible to write the message offline with any editor, upload the answer to my mailbox, and then import the text into VI, but I usually take care of any answers on the spot, making that impractical. But you are right that Emacs is lots better than VI. Betty
#8164From: Beth GaynorDec 6, 1990 9:43 AM
Ouch!! Yeah, it does depend on what your mail server offers, as my fiance reminded me. I have the option for Emacs– it still seems wierd to me, but then again I still haven't found an online editor I truly love– the journalism grad is too spoiled by word processors! 🙂 –Beth
#8228From: jake edgeDec 6, 1990 6:20 PM
Just to add my $0.02 … in my line of work (computer consulting), i find that vi is the *BEST* editor as it is portable … i can run it under any particular flavor of UNIX that you want to name as well as MS-DOS, OS/2 or AmigaDOS … if necessary, i can bring it to my clients machine and i am up and going in a matter of moments … i have tried learning new editors as i move to each new system and i find that the time spent doing that is completely wasted … jake – via Whap!
#8345From: Steve PietrowiczDec 7, 1990 6:43 AM
I completely agree. Besides, my hands are hopelessly programmed for "vi". 🙂 Steve
#8352From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 7, 1990 10:14 AM
Well, it is pretty nice once you learn it – just a real bear to learn. But easier than TROFF! Betty
#8392From: jake edgeDec 7, 1990 7:26 PM
I am a terrible UNIX (and AmigaDOS) bigot, but I steer clear of TROFF .. I use Pagestream for that sort of thing … jake – via Whap!
#7974From: Steve PietrowiczDec 4, 1990 6:22 PM
One of the better "Intro to UNIX"-type books I've seen is called "Introducing the UNIX System"….can't remember the other though… Steve
#7890From: Jeff SchweigerDec 3, 1990 10:23 PM
Kathy – University Internet connections are typically handled through either a computer center and/or a computer science department. If you want to tell me where you're on faculty, I can look up whether or not the school has a registered connection with the Network Information Center. Jeff Schweiger
#7923From: Kathy NasaraDec 4, 1990 6:41 AM
Dear Jeff, Thanks. This year I'm at Cleveland State University–hope they're registered. Kathy
#7930From: Jeff SchweigerDec 4, 1990 8:52 AM
Kathy – Cleveland State University is connected to the Internet, you can contact CSU Computer Services for details. Of interest the Cleveland Public Library is also connected to Internet. I don't know if either of these sites participate in Usenet (the newsgroups), but Cleveland is also home to the Cleveland Freenet, which I believe does participate on Usenet (I don't have details handy on the Freenet, but it is University related). Jeff Schweiger
#8043From: Kathy NasaraDec 5, 1990 7:04 AM
Thanks, Jeff. I'll trot myself over today and see what they'll allow me access to! Kathy
#7931From: Jeff SchweigerDec 4, 1990 8:52 AM
Kathy – In amplification of by public response to you, the points of contact I have listed for CSU Computer Services are: David Chatfield, (216) 687-2154 Angelo Santilli, (216) 687-3881 Hope this helps. Jeff Schweiger