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#Which Laser Printer?

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#9126From: Malcolm O'BrienDec 13, 1990 12:39 AM
Vic, Just to add to what David has said… The LaserJets have three ways of printing. You can send ASCII text and get very nice Courier output (or whatever happens to be built into your printer – don't know about the Oki). A font cartridge counts as a built-in (if you have font carts). Second way, downloadable (soft fonts). This is a collection of bitmaps to describe face, size and style. You can DL several fonts and use escape chrs to tell the LJ to look up different font data. This method has two modes. If done when the printer is first turned on and they are made resident, you get excellent throughput. In the other mode, the fonts are DL'd with each print job. This amounts to significant overhead and reduces throughput. Most PC apps will let you choose in this regard. If there are any Ami apps that let you DL fonts to LJ's, I don't know what they are. I expect they would include their own driver. If you're going to DL fonts, you'll want to have at least 1.5MB in the LJ. The third method is to let the computer generate the bitmap for everything; i.e. you're not sending ASCII anymore. This amounts to a LOT of data and I expect it's how most Amiga apps support LJ's. And consequently, I think that HP's soft fonts would be unlikely to do anything for you. FWIW, my preferred solution would be to get the LJ with a PostScript cart. That way you've got the standard 35 PS fonts "built-in". Once again you'll need to have at least 1.5MB. (I think most LJ's and compatible come with 512K.) Excellence! will use the PS fonts but only allows particular sizes. A bad shortcoming of E!, IMHO. Yes, the LJ driver on the extras disk will work with the Series II's though it has some quirks. Evidently, there's been a new release of that driver (though one person told me it still has quirks). Using PostScript, the quirks disappear and there IS a PS preferences driver. Malcolm
#9284From: Alan RussellDec 13, 1990 9:09 PM
The TI PS-17 (Postscript with 17 fonts) and PS-35 are very good and quite inexpensive.. The PS-17 has been seen for around $1600! Since a LJII is no longer available the TI with its postscript seems to be a real good deal for Amigas (and Macer's too!) –Alan
#9325From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 13, 1990 11:19 PM
Alan, I believe I've been told that the TI postscript printer is not quite standard postscript. Have I been misinformed? Betty
#9596From: Malcolm O'BrienDec 15, 1990 8:14 PM
Betty, These days most PS printers have the 35 fonts. There are only a few with 17. That may have been the point being made with regard to the TI. Also there's a thread going in (I think) Adobe among some TI users who were expecting PS fonts on carts. They keep asking TI about it and keep getting the same brochure about non-PS fonts. They're wondering if the carts will ever be available. If not they can still DL them. The TI mem upgrades are expensive too. $495 a MB if I remember right. Way too much. Someone's (not surprisingly) doing mem boards for TI at a MUCH lower price. Malcolm
#9627From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 15, 1990 10:12 PM
As you may know, TI is located in Dallas, and quite a few of our club members work there – or have worked there in the past. I've heard a bit about that printer from some of them – but since it was beyond my budget, I've not listened as closely as I should! Perhaps that is the problem – the lack of fonts and the cost of memory would be upsetting. Betty
#9941From: Jim WhitlowDec 17, 1990 11:52 PM
Betty, Soft Warehouse on the north side of Arlington (also Dallas and other locations) has a working demo of the TI microLaser. Perhaps more importantly, the Arlington location has a very knowledgeable sales rep on location. I seem to remember his name being Roger. Ask for Roger if you decide to have a look at it. I prefer other printers, but the microLaser is a solid contender overall, I think. Happy Trails, —GeM PS: If you do go to Soft Warehouse and begin comparing the microLaser to the Panasonic laser next to it, be advised that the actual print sample of the Panasonic is on the flip side of the print out above it. The print out above the Panasonic was printed on the TI unit <g>.
#9595From: Malcolm O'BrienDec 15, 1990 8:14 PM
Alan, Well, when I have money and a job again, I'll look into the TI – but not the 17. $1600, eh? Let's see, that'd be $14,000,000 Cdn. plus Grab Some Tax. 🙂 The IIP is still around and I've seen it with the PacPage cart. It's acceptable to me. See, I've gotta see the output. There are some 300dpi PS lasers that just aren't worth owning. The IIP/cart/memory can be had here for about $2500. Malcolm
#9308From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIDec 13, 1990 10:32 PM
Malcom, That PostScript Preferencs driver is not without its quirks too! But MUCH better than having NO Preferences driver for our PostScript Printers! Lloyd
#9597From: Malcolm O'BrienDec 15, 1990 8:15 PM
Lloyd, Yeah, I went looking in the LIBs for such files. One is a replacement for printer.device and the other is a prefs driver. Have you used both? Malcolm
#9741From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIDec 16, 1990 2:10 PM
Malcom, Both were written by the same person, I believe. I use the Preferences driver. I don't think the other one even worked for me (GURU). The Prefs driver is the newest of the two, I believe. I would wish someone would come up with an update for it, however. I don't think all the options available to a Preferences driver are available to the PostScript driver version. Lloyd
#10077From: Malcolm O'BrienDec 19, 1990 12:30 AM
Lloyd, Right on both counts. I took 'em apart and same guy and prefs driver is newer. (If you keep dropping an "l" from my name, I'll drop one from yours. Just kidding! 🙂 Malcolm
#10318From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIDec 20, 1990 10:17 PM
Malcolm, First I was going to protest – I didn't *think* I dropped your "l". But now that I looked at it again, I see what I did. I "visualized" you name as "MAL COME" (that's phonetic, not a wisecrack), and didn't even *think* about that last "L". Sorry about that! You'd be astonished by the variations (number and style) people come up with for "LLOYD". Most people have trouble with the "DOUBLE L" at the beginning, and usually do drop one "L". The "OY" combo ususally throws a good number too. Oh well. Lloyd
#10430From: Malcolm O'BrienDec 21, 1990 10:13 PM
Lloyd, Most people spell my name wrong most of the time. It's not uncommon in the UK, uncommon in Canada and rare in US. I've known a few Lloyd's but I've never known another Malcolm. Malcolm