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#Maxtor LXT-100 SCSI

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#9915From: Phil KoenigDec 17, 1990 10:11 PM
Hello there, SCSI gurus. Perhaps you can offer me your opinions. I ran across a place advertising a real attractive price on a Maxtor LXT-100S 3.5" hard drive ($379). Was wondering what the general consensus out there was on that drive. I know Maxtor has an excellent reputation, but somewhere in the dark past I remember a thread involving compatible drives for Microbotics Hardframe SCSI controller, and apparently the LXT-100 simply wouldn't work with it at all. Now, I don't have a Hardframe (I have an ICD Advantage 2000) but I would like to have an idea if this drive is going to cause me undue compatibility problems. I have had my fill of compatibility problems, from the nonstandard SCSI implementation of the Conner CP-340 drive I now use (which also doesn't contain a terminator pack), to the Konica KT-510 10.7MB SCSI floppy drive, which still acts totally flaky. I was previously using both of these in an external box, connected to an A2090 in a Subsystem 500 expansion chassis underneath an Amiga 500. The Conner was extremely flaky until I realized it needed to be terminated, which the Konica conveniently did for me. On the other hand, I would regularly get the SCSI bus completely locked up (the activity light on the KT-510 would come on and not go off) right after the Binddrivers command polled the SCSI bus. I thought that this was at least partly due to the infamous 2090's less-than-accurate support of removeable media drives. I looked forward to the day that I could actually *use* the Konica, with my new removeable-media-friendly ICD, which wouldn't work in the Subsystem. I'm now discovering that I'm having similiar (but not quite as bad) problems, even with the new controller. Am I going to go through the same headaches with the LXT-100? Should I just get the Quantum 105S, which was my other choice, and swallow an additional $170 or so? It's just that I'd heard that, in general, Maxtor was about as good as HD's get. True? + Phil +
#9959From: ICD, Inc.Dec 18, 1990 6:28 AM
We've been using a Maxtor LXT100S for almost a year (on another computer system) on our BBS without a problem.
#9989From: Phil KoenigDec 18, 1990 2:46 PM
Aha! Just the person I'd like to talk to. I had little doubt that the Maxtor was a good drive, my only question was whether it would cause any problems with the Advantage 2000, being that I had heard it was incompatible with another Amiga HD controller. Do you know of any Advantage 2000 owners who are using the LXT-100? Have you ever tried it? By the way, how do I get a copy of the "real" docs for the board? The ones I have say "preliminary". There seems to be several issues not covered in there. Another question: every time I try to use the Konica KT-510 drive, it causes me problems. Either locks up the SCSI bus, or freezes everything when trying to a partition/format- unless verification is turned completely OFF. Any ideas? + Phil +
#10226From: ICD, Inc.Dec 20, 1990 6:11 AM
Are you sure you have done the termination right on the SCSI bus? What else do you need to know that isn't in the manual? Some of the "preliminary" versions were only because it was photocopied instead of printed. Craig
#10457From: Phil KoenigDec 22, 1990 1:59 AM
The termination is provided in the Konica drive. I know, (or at least *think* I know) because adding the Konica to the SCSI bus was obviously what I needed to eliminate the *severe* problems that the Conner CP-340 was having. After having done that, haven't had a *whit* of a problem with the regular HD. It seemed to me that there were issues that weren't covered in the manual, as in modifying parameters for the drives. Unless of course, the Advantage doesn't allow you to do so- which would be a pity. It seems that most other controllers give you many more options in terms of mountlist parameters, like MaxTransfer. Also, the install program wants to do every thing "automatically", but what happens when it can't read the proper configuration information from the embedded controller? On BOTH of my drives, there is at least one error message that comes up at the time of formatting. On the Konica, it gets an error regarding one of 'em, either "reading drive configuration" or "reading controller configuration"- and on the Conner it reports an error on BOTH. I have also discovered that the gadgets for LUN, ID, etc. seem to be totally worthless, since if the format program can't read a drive on the SCSI bus, those gadgets seem to be inactive as far as entering the information manually. In addition, one of the main reasons I was interested in more options in the setup software was the rather dissapointing data transfer rates I've been able to get out of the drive. I know that ICD makes big waves re: the Advantage's speed, but it seems substandard for a 29ms Conner to only peak out at something slightly under 200k reads. Dir scan and seek/read seem to be fine, but I was led to believe by various sources that I could achieve something better than that. Now, with another controller I could go in and change MaxTransfer, but I don't see a way to do that with the Advantage. Oh- by the way, does the Advantage require BindDrivers? It wasn't exactly clear in the manual either. Thanks. + Phil +
#10467From: ICD, Inc.Dec 22, 1990 6:35 AM
I'll get back to you on this. We have several people on vacation this week, so it may be a while. Remind me if you don't hear anything by about the 3rd. Craig
#10487From: Phil KoenigDec 22, 1990 2:19 PM
Okay…you gottie.
#10228From: ICD, Inc.Dec 20, 1990 6:21 AM
Oh,and about the Maxtor, I don't know if it has been explicitly tested with the AdSCSI 2000. The person to ask is on vacation for a couple of weeks. But I know that it follows the CCS standards, so it I can't imagine why it wouldn't work. Craig
#10459From: Phil KoenigDec 22, 1990 2:00 AM
Thanks for the note re: the LXT-100. It appears that I may end up with something like a Quantum anyway- since I didn't realize that apparently the Maxtor is somewhat slower. Thanks though. + Phil +