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#hardware problem

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#80364From: jeffrey horwitzDec 5, 1992 12:19 PM
I installed in my Amiga 2000 the new rom chip forversion 2.05 + the ECS chip set. The computer will no longer recognize disks entered into drives df:0 or df:1 unl my system also includes a 40 meg hd by gvp and it boots up off the hd. Could this be the problem and how could I correct this? Please send any suggestions.
#80384From: Michael GerardDec 5, 1992 5:10 PM
Does it really not recognize disks in df0: or df1: or is it that it can't BOOT from a disk in df0:?
#80402From: jeffrey horwitzDec 5, 1992 9:22 PM
To Michael Gerard. It will boot up off of a disk inserted into df:0 . Any disk that starts out in either df:0 or df:1 can be opened and the computer will recognize them. but if I put in another disk after the computer is booted, the computer ignores the new disk. The red light on the drive doesn't even come on. I am very confused. Jeff
#80417From: Michael GerardDec 5, 1992 11:02 PM
I'm confused too. The drive is working when used as a boot device, but neither drive works when you boot from the hard drive. That's one I haven't heard before. I hope someone else online can give you a clue, but you may need to have a dealer check your installation of the 2.05 rom & ECS chips.
#80432From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 6, 1992 12:47 AM
Jeffrey, Put a new disk in DF0: and then issue a DISKCHANGE DF0: command in a CLI, see what happens. IF the Amiga spins the drive and then recognizes the disk, the problem is that it's not reading the diskchange line (line 11). And that line goes to one of the CIA chips (8520s) in your Amiga. They are VERY static sensitive and can easily cause problems. Did you do the update to 2.04 yourself, or did you have a dealer do it? If a dealer, have them check the machine. If you did it, try swapping the 2 8520s (and again…be VERY careful handling them) and see if the symptom goes away. If it does…you've found your problem. Don
#80489From: Brad LanghorstDec 6, 1992 4:50 PM
I'm having a problem that is just as weird as his problem. I installed the 2.04 ROM and an A2091 hardcard w/ Quantum 52 meg drive. It worked beautifully under 1.3 and 2.0. Next, I installed 2 megs of RAM into the card. Now, the computer crashes when I try to boot up under 2.0. The memory configures and works fine under 1.3, as long as I take out the FastMemFirst line in the startup sequence. I've tested the RAM, and the chips are fine. I took the whole setup to an Amiga dealer, and he said the card was bad. So, I sent the card back to the place where I bought it and they said the card was fine. They even sent me a new card to try. The same problem occurs with the new card. What gives? I've had expansion bus problems before that were supposedly fixed by the dealer, but now I'm not so sure. If it helps any, I have a revision 4.1 motherboard. If you have any suggestions, I'm all ears. The more technical the explanation, the better. Thanks in advance, Brad P.S. I would appreciate a reply via E-mail.
#80519From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 6, 1992 8:34 PM
Brad, Make sure you have the latest ROMs on the A2091, I believe it's version 6.6 on the ROMs. Also, make sure you use the 2.04 version of HDToolBox to update the partitioning information on the HD. Also, I believe under 1.3 of the OS, you had to tell the system what filesystem you were using, that's no longer necessary under 2.04 as the FastFileSystem is in the OS ROM. (For best performance, it's best to backup your files and then reformat the drives under the 2.04 FastFileSystem). Other than that, I can't think of any specific reason why you're having a problem. Don
#80505From: Michael GerardDec 6, 1992 6:32 PM
Geez… is there anything that _isn't_ connected to the 8250's?
#80521From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 6, 1992 8:34 PM
Michael, For all intent and purposes…nope. <grin> Don
#80509From: jeffrey horwitzDec 6, 1992 6:48 PM
to Don Curtis Sysop I did as you suggested and tried the diskchange command. The computer was able to recognize the disk inserted that way. Does this mean that I have damaged the 8520's and now need to replace them. would simply removing them and putting them back in place really help? Thank you for your help. Jeff
#80541From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 6, 1992 11:51 PM
Jeffrey, Yes, that more than likely means you've damaged one of the CIA chips (the lower numbered one). You can confirm this by swapping the two chips, if the diskchange is now automatically recognized…the CIA chip is the culprit. No, simply removing and re-seating the chips in the same socket will neither fix the problem, nor test if the CIA chips are the problem. Presuming only one chip is bad, swapping the two chips should move the good chip to the drive controller side of things and your drives may start to work. Of course, that will also move the bad chip to the other side…the side than handles the parallel port, serial port and some more of the disk lines….so don't be surprised if several things "break" when you swap the chips. If you're not sure of what you're doing….I'd strongly suggest you have your Amiga dealer check things out. Don