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CD32 vs. Jaguar

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#123606From: Eugene KushnirDec 1, 1993 8:54 PM
Can someone please give me an honest comparison between CD32 and Jaguar? I am a big fan of Amiaga (especialy my 1200) but with all those roomers about Jaguar going around I feel a little lost.
#123723From: paul ciminoDec 2, 1993 7:24 PM
I have no idea how to compare them. However, I will be surprised if the Jaguar is any good. So what it has a 64 Bit bus ! The 64 bit bus is for the two coprocessors (graphics and sound, I think) do you realize, that hanging off that bus like a bloated tick, which is in actuality running the whole show, is a 68000 ?????!!!! Atari is notorious for tooting their own horn, and falling short. They are gambling everything on this venture. IBM is gambling very little, and hopes they'll get a foot into the game-machine door. Let's face it, IBM's track record with small computers is dismal. Okay, okay, they had the PC, do you realize how many failures BEFORE AND AFTER the PC/XT/AT there were ? I do not see Jaguar long for this world.
#123750From: Richard EricksonDec 3, 1993 1:21 AM
I watched CNBC on Wednesday and they were reporting on Atari's future and the Jaguar. They said the Jaguar is "no big deal" and "questioned" Atari in '95. Having that on national TV doesn't help Atari. Richard -> on the Amiga 1000 AutoPilot
#124081From: Leslie T. BartiromoDec 6, 1993 12:48 PM
The bottom line with game machines are GAMES. If the software isn't there it doesn't matter how many bits the machine has. Judging by the track record of the "new" Atari AND Commodore I think both machines could be in trouble. Both companies can not handle this on a "business as usual" basis. They have GOT to make sure the software is out there and that the hardware is easily avalible or people are going to go elsewhere.
#124084From: Richard EricksonDec 6, 1993 1:07 PM
Look at the news from the WOCA Toronto posting in Hot New and Rumors: >Lew reported that CD32 is the number 1 selling CD platform in Europe. He >also said that there are 120 licencees developing titles, and that >Commodore has spent absolutely no money subsidizing any of them (as they >did with CDTV). I think this is very good news. Richard -> Using AutoPilot on the 2.1/030 A1000
#124223From: Dominick J. FontanaDec 7, 1993 9:26 PM
Richard, >>Lew reported that CD32 is the number 1 selling CD platform in Europe. Let's hope it does as well in America. 😎 Dom Fontana –> Sent from NY via AP <–
#124272From: Richard EricksonDec 8, 1993 1:05 AM
I have got my fingers crossed! Richard -> Using AutoPilot on the 2.1/030 A1000
#124253From: Leslie T. BartiromoDec 7, 1993 11:03 PM
I'm just wondering when the U.S. is going to see some of those CD32 games along with displays in Toys R Us, Kay Bee, The Wiz, etc.
#124273From: Richard EricksonDec 8, 1993 1:05 AM
They are announcing at CES in January, so I would guess not to long after that. I guess it depends on the deals CBM has worked out with retailers. Richard -> Using AutoPilot on the 2.1/030 A1000
#124390From: Keith MeyersDec 8, 1993 9:25 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but here in the Detroit area everyone seems to be going crazy over the Panasonic 3DO. Last weekend there were HUGE crowds around the machines at the local malls. I wasn't impressed by its graphics, but I must admit it seemed to be a very 'fast' machine for the amount of information it was handling on the screen. The CD32 had better get on the rack soon if it's going to win over any of these new systems. Regards, Keith.
#124427From: Richard EricksonDec 9, 1993 12:25 AM
They had the same 3DO display here at the Mall of America in Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago. There wasn't what I consider huge crowds here, and this was in a mall that averages 50,000 to 100,000 on a Saturday or Sunday. CBM is now producing NTSC units, and will be introducing CD32 at the winter CES in January. With 3DO titles available can be counted on one hand, only one manufacturer producing 3DO right now, with a price around $700. The also Jaguar is not even in national release, nobody is going to jump out to a quick lead. Look at how long CD-I has been out, and it still hasn't set the world on fire. The horse race hasn't even really started yet. Richard -> Using AutoPilot on the 2.1/030 A1000
#124532From: Keith MeyersDec 9, 1993 6:06 PM
I would consider a group of twenty or more people gathered around a huge crowd. What concerns me is the advertising jump that the 3DO seems to have. No, I've never seen an advertisement for CD-I. No, I've never seen an advertisement for CDTV. Yes, I've seen advertising for the 3DO in the local papers along with several national publications, not to mention the Nintendo-style display they seem to have at every Hudson's department store in the area. (Yes, the games are few and don't look too hot, but that can change.) It's Commodore's past track record of advertising our faithful Amiga computers which may stall the CD32 long enough for some other system to take hold of the market. I just hope they (Commodore) know what they're up against here. Keith.
#124591From: Richard EricksonDec 10, 1993 12:54 AM
I guess the idea of a crowd depends on the person, oh well. Actually right now CD-I is advertising, (at least national television) more than anybody. They have their 30 minute infomercial, and scattered 30 sec spots airing on a number of cable channels. They also have print ads in a number of magazines. Sears has had in store displays for CD-I for months if not a year. With all that, it still is having trouble after all this time. 3DO is a brand new product, with a type product that has had trouble selling itself to the buying public, with only a few titles and a list of around $700. Nothing is going to happen fast in the race. Commodore has said they will be advertising. From what I understand, they played a TV spot for CD32 at WOCA Toronto, so they have not been sitting still. Richard -> Using AutoPilot on the 2.1/030 A1000
#124623From: Christopher TolmieDec 10, 1993 7:07 AM
Keith, CD-I has been doing Info-mercials on Saturday's around here. ct
#124544From: Paul HigginbottomDec 9, 1993 7:55 PM
People may have been going "crazy" over 3D0, but was anyone buying?