#toaster paint export?
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Hi, I am working with an individual who uses the Toaster 4000 and we are trying
to transfer a file from the paint program in a file format that would be
recognized by an IBM PC….eg tiff, tga, bmp, pcx or even iff. I can't seem to
find a "save as" or export feature from the Toasters paint program …..any
advice.
Thanks George Kunz
George,
You'll need an image conversion program, such as AdPro or Imagemaster.
Jerry
In Toaster paint you want to select Picture, Save RGB to save an Amiga
IFF24 file. Then you could use the Write PICT util included with the
Toaster s/w to convert to PICT format. Not sure how much use PICT get in
PC circles?
Then you can save the file to a PC formatted disk easily useing the Amiga
OS. And run a Sneaker Net. :^)
….John
ToasterPaint outputs THE standard amiga image format IFF. There are
PC programs (conversion artist, hijaak) which will recognize this
format, or you can do the conversion with other amiga software. the
IFF format is the same as EA's .lbm format on the PC, but I'm not
sure they can handle 24-bits.
George, I just went through this ringer, trying to convert tpaint rgb
files to pc. Not much luck. First of all, many of the files saved to
rgb are to large for a floppy to handle, unless you have another
removable media. I have a strong pc conversion program, it handles
amiga, but not iff24. Since my amiga is next to the pc, i'm persuing
to send files via serial ports. That might wind up another wild goose
chase. I'm told the best way is using AdPro program, which i don't
have at this time. I'm running out of drive space anyway. So, what i
have done, is safe to rgb, but the frames are in components to make
them smaller, and send the disks to a graphic company, On Video in
texas. For a few bucks a got the disks transfered. But i'm in need to
have more done. sorry could not offer any more, just my problems.
There are good people in this forum, i'm sure some one will send you
on the right track. I'm listening myself. good luck, george
A null modem cable between the serial ports works just fine using a
terminal program on each end. I just set one up for myself. At
19,200 baud it takes about 3 minutes to transfer a 300K file. I'm
looking to get that up to 115Kbaud with some shareware for each of
the platforms, depending if the HW can handle it. Let me know if you
need more info.
You still need to convert the images. Use ADPro, ImageFX or
Imagemaster; there may be a Shareware utility to do this in the
AmigaUser forum libraries, too. I couldn't find anythng on the PC
end that could handle Amiga 24bit IFFs.
BTW, make SURE that the cable connects the computers correctly (check
the pinouts and use a meter on the cable), and do get a shielded
cable.
Thanks Nathan. Once i get it in the pc, from there there's no problem
with transferring files. I have couple of alternatives. since the
larger capacity floppy, 1.44 meg, I can then send away to get it
transferred, or even leave it as iff24, and through compuserve e-mail
to someone with capability to do that. Of course I would pay for
online charges and for transfer charge, whatever that might be. I'm
sure i would not have a problem finding some one with that capability
here on cis. since I don't have a frequent need for such transfers,
it would be worth it, rather than buying a program such as adpro and
larger removable storage to be able to deliver to a printer. So, the
serial conection makes most sense at this time. But i'm still not too
clear on any commands from the amiga to enable transfer to the serial
port. It's prbobly some command at cli, or something like that. BTW,
isn't there a floppy drive for the amiga with larger capability, like
the pc 1.44? thanks for the help. george
To transfer files through r\the serial port you need to run a
terminal program (like the one you use to read this!) on both the
Amiga and PC sides. Then start a download on one and an upload on
the other. Term programs for both machines shouyld be available here
as downloads which will fit on floppy.
George,
I just started doing what you want to do. I bought Ad Pro and converted the
file to a PCX file. I am surprised that your files don't fit on a floppy. I
saved a framestore – single freeze frame from video – and it was just under 1.4
megs.
Last week I bought HiJack Pro. Then instead of changing the file on the Amiga,
I left it as an IFF and saved that to a floppy. Had HiJack convert the IFF on
the PC to a file that PageMaker could handle. The results have been excellent.
I don't recall how large Ad Pro is, but it comes on four 720K disks, so it
doesn't take up that much room.
You should also be able to send files directly between computers via
the serial port. We did this with a PC and a MAC. We used MAC/LINK,
but I've also sent files using any modem program. I don't know the
Amiga that well, but there must me a communications program for it.
Buy or make a null modem cable. Radio Shack sales them for under
$10.00. Then set both communications programs to the same protocol
settings, making one the receiver and the other the sender.
At some point you will need a conversion program for the files. I
found a shareware program called Paint Shop. However, it does not
handle IFF files, so Hi Jack would be a better way to go. Most stores
are discounting it for around $85.00 Windows version and $49.00 for
DOS.
Thanks Fred for the info. I was goingto do just that, connect both
computers via nul cable to the serial ports. Both my ports are taken
up, so I was trying to avoid connecting and disconnecting each time.
I do have paint shop in windows, but it does not handle iff24. Some
of my framestores from toaster are over 1 meg and will not fit on a
amiga floppy. My pc handles 1.4 megs on the floppy. Maybe I should
just go the simple way out and connect both computers via serial,
only when i need to send files from coputer to computer, I don't need
to do that often. You see, once i get it to my pc, then i don't care
how big the files are. Just e-mail them to somebody with conversion
program, and have them send it back to me. I would pay for this
service, that's no problem. I'm patrified to learn new programs in
amiga, what a pain. Especially when i'm in the middle of a project
and can't afford spending time on learning curves. Anyway, you gave
me lot's of helpfull infor, i will persue it. thanks, george
save it as RGB from TPaint (which is essentially IFF24). Then use Hi-Jack
on the PC or AdPro, ImageMaster et al on the Amiga to transfer it to GIF
or PIC or TIFF or whatever you want.
wmc – via Autopilot!
Wayne, and others. What a great response! I feel much closer to a
solution for transfering these files from the Toaster to the PC. I've
both HiJack and Adobe Photoshop on the PC side so I am confident that
I will find a way. One thing that was puzzeling to me….you would
think that the Toaster would output to an .iff file type….or does
it but just names it something else. Iff I can handle but I am not
sure what kind of file an RGB is. I am going to try renaming the RGB
to .iff and see if that makes a difference. PC's are funny about the
file names…..no matter what type file it is, if it is not named
correctly then it cannot be read. Thanks again for the 5-6 people
offering help here….great bunch of Toasterheads.
George Kunz
With the exception of ".info" extensions are completely ignored by
the amiga OS, and by most applications. The files saved from TPaint
are either iff (ILBM) format RGB files or framestores (which are
composite video dumps). These also happen to be stored in an iff
format, although not in a way many other prog.s can understand. It
almost sounds like you only need to rename the files to get
everything to work. You can save files with any name you like, so
add the .iff it you need to!