#Epson scanner drivers?
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I purchased an Epson ES300C scanner and I noticed that there is also a
serial port and SCSI interface built into it as well as the parrallel port
I was expecting. Can the serial or scsi ports be used when connecting
this unit up to an Amiga that has all three ports?
Also, what software package is recommended most for this scanner? A
friend is going to come over this weekend with his copy of ImageFX (and
cable) so that I can at least test out the unit, but I haven't really
checked out which software to buy as of yet.
I won't really need color, not now at least since I don't have a color
printer (I have my eye on the BJ-600C <G>), are ImageMaster, ADPro and
ImageFX the only choices?
=Rick=
Rick,
I have the same scanner and use it with ADPro. It works very well. I can't
speak to the other software or drivers, however.
Bill
>>Can the serial or scsi ports be used when connecting
this unit up to an Amiga that has all three ports?<<
Sure… if the software you're using supports them (good luck)
>>…what software package is recommended most for this scanner?<<
I use both AdPro (with optional driver package) and ImageMaster (with
MetaScan) with my Epson ES300C. I believe that Image F/X will also access
it. All three vendors have support sections in AmigaVendor Forum (GO
AMIGAV).
I kinda thought that the software available for the amiga that worked with
my Epson scanner utilized only the parrallel port, but I thought I'd ask
anyway.
I noticed that you avoided recommending either ADPro or ImageMaster over
the other. Is that because you feel they are on an equal level or you
want to keep out of the Image Processing shouting matches that crop up
occasionally? <G>.
=Rick=
hehe…
Well, I don't know how much good my comments would do since I don't have
Image F/X (not because I don't want it, I just can't afford it right now).
Also, I'm using a version of MetaScan (from METADIGM (Vic Wagner)) that
I'm not sure ever made it out for commercial use.
I like the look and feel of MetaScan… and use it when I'm doing a large
color scan, because it writes data to disk, rather than holding everything
in memory (the way that AdPro does… although, AdPro's stuff does have a
SCAN-TO-DISK option… but I haven't used it).
For me, it's a toss up… I use each program for some things. It appears
that MetaScan does a better job on my system (A3000 ECS).
I'd really like to get a crack at playing Image F/X someday, but I'm
afraid that won't be soon.
I noticed that you avoided recommending either ADPro or ImageMaster over
the other. Is that because you feel they are on an equal level or you
want to keep out of the Image Processing shouting matches that crop up
occasionally? <G>.
Well I can certainly speak for Adpro, it's got a really easy to use
interface, and you get good results… what more can be said !
Tim
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What more can be said? <grinning>
Well, you can say, truthfully, that you can do lots and lots of things in
Imagemaster that you cannot do at all, no how, in AdPro. :^) You could say
some other things in the same vein, too. :^) But we won't do that.
–Ben
…via AutoPilot
>What more can be said? <grinning>
>Well, you can say, truthfully, that you can do lots and lots of things in
>Imagemaster that you cannot do at all, no how, in AdPro. :^) You could
>say some other things in the same vein, too. :^) But we won't do that.
I know Ben I know ;^) Oh how I would love to give Imagemaster a go…. but
you already know my feelings on this ;^)
…. maybe a good review might change my mind….
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
>>maybe a good review might change my mind<<
I take it you haven't seen the January issue of AmigaWorld on that side of
the pond yet, eh?
Nope not yet…. mind you there is a couple of ponds between Hong Kong and
the US :^)
It should be here soon…
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
hehe… ok, here's a quote:
"If you've gotten this far in to the review without pausing to buy
Imagemaster R/T for yourself, you've already waited too long. Imagemaster
R/T is a tool no serious artist should be without"
– Dave Johnson
AmigaWorld 1/94 p16
Perhaps a look at the Janury '94 Amigaworld is in order, then. It's a
decent review. :^)
Tim;
I'm not as shy as Ben <caugh> <gag> <choke> 🙂
People that have been on this forum for many years know that I have not
been hesitant about "flaming" Ben when I thought he was wrong or even when
I thought that he might be "over-doing it." HE IS NOT OVER STATING THE
SITUATION!
I like ADPro and have used it for a number of years, not extensively mind
you because I really am limited to just a bit of "minor" corrections to
bit map images for use in DTP.
I have been using IM R/t since it came out. It is (IMHO) a much more
"intimidating" program. While there are several things that I have tried
to do in IM R/t that I have not been able to accomplish successfully yet,
I don't believe that ADPro can under any circumstances do them.
Probably the single most important feature of IM R/t is that it is very
easy to try something, compare the "before" and "after" and save either
(or both). Amount of memory available limits the practicality of some
sequence of operation type things, but as you no doubt know, the order in
which you perform certain types of image processing affect the results.
IM R/t is the only program that I know of where you can experiment with
such things and not get lost (named buffers and the ability to save/load
and switch any buffer at any time). IM R/t has ARexx macro capability
that can be called from just about anywhere in the program (the only place
that I have seen myself where I don't think that you can call an ARexx
macro is when IM R/t has the Macro Requester Open – and of course you
could just select your macro if it is in the group for that requester).
This program is beyond amazing. Also, my attempts at comparitive
processing have led me to conclude that IM R/t does a better job. My
perception is that it is also faster but that is definately subjective.
-bill
Thanks for the insight on Image R/T. I'm going to wait to see what Amiga
World has to say, but to be honest I would prefer to wait until one of the
UK magazines gives it a review, as they are usually give a better review,
for better or for worse… but at least you get an Honest review.
Still once I have a little spare cash I might just treat myself.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
I have not read the AW review yet but I here that it is a pretty good
review (for a change).
-bill
Some operatations in AdPro are, in fact, faster.
<chuckle> This is wild… me defending IM R/t and you defending
ADPro!
I can believe that you are correct… however from the users
standpoint, IM R/t appears to be faster because there is more visable
activity. More importantly, in actual use IM R/t is faster (at least
for me) because I can switch back and forth between the "before" and
"after" processing images is well under a second to see the
difference. That instant comparision can be very valuable.
Guess I'll quit arguing with you. :^) You're right. :^))
Gee Ben you gave up so easy, that's not like you 🙂
Richard;
I have ADPro but do not have the scanner software for the machine. I also
have IM R/t and do have the scanner software.
If you are buying software just for the purpose of running the scanner
then I STRONGLY recommend buying MetaScan package. The MetaScan supplied
with IM R/t is useful only for partial scans of limited size images
(depending upon the amount of memory in your machine) as it will ONLY do
24 bit color scans and will not save to disk directly from the scanning
program.
MetaScan itself OTOH will probably do everything that you could possibly
want (but I am not sure about the scsi.device interface). I am pretty
sure that ASDS does have scsi interface support. Personally, I doubt that
the interface is of any real concern (I don't think that use of the scsi
interface speeds the scanner up any).
BTW, within the limitations mentioned, the IM R/t Epson ES600C combination
will do some really amazing work. If you have followed any of my messages
in BlackBelt's section it is obvious that I am not any sort of image
processing expert. However, I have scanned in several color images for
conversion and use in desk top publishing. Both the scan (MetaScan) and
the processing (IM R/t) provided results that were just astounding. I am
getting B/W images that are only just slightly less quality than a
photograph.
-bill
Bill,
How does one get the MetaScan package, I have never noticed it before on
my local dealers shelves or in any of the magazines. Is it a stand alone
product for scanning?
You said that you where pretty sure that ASDS does have scsi interface
support, did you mean ASDG, and if not who what is ASDS? The reason I was
interested in the SCSI interface was to free up the parrallel port for
other uses.
=Rick=
Rick;
Yes, I meant ASDG and not ASDS.
I am not sure how to get the MetaScan package. I have been trying to buy
the full version (after using the limited one that supports IM R/t) for
well over a month and have not been able to find a source.
-bill
For information on MetScan, conatact Vic Wagner at Metdigm: 76046,3004
To get on the good side of someone who can sell you MetaScan, send a
Christmas card to Vic Wagner. <wwiiiide grin>
I probably will anyway but is that the only source? Is there no one
else selling it? I wonder why Vic did not say anything to me when I
asked him about how to get the full version?
I don't think the full version is out in retail yet.
Humm, well that would certainly explain that… tnx
-bill
If you figure out how to make Art Dept Pro use the scsi interface,
PLEASE let me know. I've gone through my manual several times, and
I've yet to get it to work. If you know of any other program that
WILL use the scsi interface for scanning, also, please let me know.
The SCSI operation using MetaScan is about 3 times faster than parallel.
With the ES-600? So far speed has not been too big an issue with me
but then I need to try to figure out how I'm gonna get the full
metascan stuff.
> With the ES-600?
No.. ES-800C
-larry
I use MetaScan with my ES-800C attached to the SCSI bus. It's
incredibly fast.