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#2.9/OVsn fix?

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#70447From: Chris N.JulsonDec 16, 1993 5:48 AM
Mike, What is the ETA of 3.0, sure would like to get the OpalVsn function happening soon. Or is there an end-user temporary fix I can do with 2.9? Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70485From: Mike HalvorsonDec 16, 1993 7:53 PM
Chris, I really dont know when 3.0 is going to be done. It could be late Jan or early Feb. The problem we are faced with right now is making the new functions easy to use and having a proper interface. THis is the most difficult problem we have ever faced. Up till now doing things have been fairly straight forward but the new features of Kinematic or Associated Motion are very difficult to make easy. We are sorry about the Opal problem and there is no work around at this time, we are aware of the problem and will be able to fix it when final release is effected. Thanks for your support and we appreciate your patience. Mike
#70538From: Chris N.JulsonDec 17, 1993 12:36 PM
Mike, Well, as we Norwegians say "ufda", sure wish I had 3.0 fer xmas. You boys take care up there in the frozen North and have a happy & warm Xmas. btw, I grew up in SoDak. Currently in Miami. Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70571From: Mike HalvorsonDec 17, 1993 7:12 PM
Chris, No self respecting Norsk man would live in Florida unless they worked for Disney, and then he would work only in the frozen part. Mike
#70577From: Chris N.JulsonDec 17, 1993 9:38 PM
Hey Mike, Did you ever live in Watseka, Illnois and navigate down "Lantern Road"? Plus, I'm keep'n Norsk heritage alive here, got 2 sons Erik (age 8) and Thor (age 5). And I get regular transfusions of Lefsa from my mom.(big Grin). Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70584From: Vance SchowalterDec 18, 1993 12:12 AM
Are you an XMas lefse man? How about lutefisk?? Only my granddad could toss back those fishies. How 'bouts the flat bread? heh heh Luv lefse, myself. Geez, then there's rommegrut(sp?) and this other one with the creamed rice and chunky raspberry syrup poured over it. Yum. My mom's 60 and still making truckloads of lefse every XMas. We never worry about our roof, I can tell you! *B^) I remember hearing a kid say his name was Thor and his brother's name was Odin. Which makes me wonder, which one came first? (An insight into Norse mythology) -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70602From: Mike HalvorsonDec 18, 1993 10:29 AM
Vance, Yah shure, lefse is shoe leather for the gods. Living in Minnesota I dont have to do anything Norsk it goes with the territory, cold and snow and snowblowers and four wheel trucks and Viking boats and big swords and furry hats and tall perfect female type people, although they all live in LA. Geez, Mike
#70610From: Vance SchowalterDec 18, 1993 12:12 PM
Up here in Canada, we also use lefse as economy model frizbees, show the natives how it makes a better canoe than tree bark/leather/fiberglass, get better grip on our roads for our cars, a rolled up lefse makes for better baseball, our police like them better than their bulletproof vests, and we've sent oodles of mail to NASA to use lefse instead of their tiles on the shuttle. Hey! Lefse's cheap to make! And historians say that Vikings didn't contribute anything to modern society! Sheeeeesh! *B^) -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70612From: Chris N.JulsonDec 18, 1993 12:35 PM
Vance, Ya yoo bet, my mom sends me Lefsa about 4 times a year. Flatbread only for Xmas. I never did acquire a taste for boiled fish with bones, but the traditional meatballs and lefsa filled the void. What part of world do you call home? Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70624From: Vance SchowalterDec 18, 1993 4:53 PM
I'm calling from the Capital City of Edmonton in the Province of Alberta in glorious country of Canada. Meatballs… yah, I invited my mom and dad to the annual Sons of Norway XMas party and mom made swedish meatballs. My heritage is Norwegian/Danish Canadian. My grandparents came up here by way of the ol' US of A. I brought up a gorgeous (blonde-haired/blue-eyed) girl from Poland and married her. Been married now for 3 years, so I'm still a pup. These people are great! VERY interesting history, too! Gonna have a real mixed up kid though! *B^) Where're you hailing from? Oh, and Santa says, "Hi!". -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70655From: Chris N.JulsonDec 18, 1993 11:32 PM
Well, you can tell Santa "Hello" from my youngest son "Thor", age 5.He has been busy hanging lites outside at nite, so Santa will be sure not to miss him all the way down here in Miami,Fl. My great,grandparents homesteaded in SoDak, my mom's house is on that same farm. Been down here for 14 yrs, fell in love with an old '26 movie house, that now does everything from ballet, symphony to Lori Anderson, and Sting. Have my Amiga down at the theatre to do Midi productions, sound efx. Hope to get some of the Richmond sftwr in the near future and work on some laser production. Well, time to finish my brewsky and catch a few ZZZ's. Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70662From: Vance SchowalterDec 19, 1993 1:42 AM
Santa says he'll be there and hopes to see a letter from little Thor either this or next Christmas. I don't know if you knew this, but if he writes, he really does get a letter in reply. Northern Canada gets mail from around the world and the kids' get replies from Santa in the language they used in their own letters. Your boy can address it to : Santa Claus The North Pole Canada If he sends the letter on monday, it may get to him before he starts on his trip. Just remember, I'm not kidding. He will get a reply and it will be from the North of Canada. *B^) -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70672From: Chris N.JulsonDec 19, 1993 7:38 AM
I think this is a great thing. Not highly publicized info, tho. Probably some conspiracy of "trolls" to suppress the existence of Santa. Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70670From: David HofmannDec 19, 1993 6:43 AM
>> made swedish meatballs. What? I thought they were called metaballs (or blobs in some raytracers). Hey Mike, when will Imagine do metaballs? 🙂 -David
#70618From: Peter GreciDec 18, 1993 3:53 PM
Methinks Odin came first since he is refferred to as the "All Father"
#70625From: Vance SchowalterDec 18, 1993 4:53 PM
Yah, but Odin didn't count on all of these silly humans naming kids after him, did he?! *B^D -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70661From: Peter GreciDec 19, 1993 1:39 AM
Good point, lotsa folks named ThorSon as well.
#70601From: Mike HalvorsonDec 18, 1993 10:25 AM
Chris, Ah no never did, Should I ? I hate potato bread, geez. Great names for your boys, dont know how I got Mike its close to Vike, Oh well. Mike
#70609From: Vance SchowalterDec 18, 1993 12:12 PM
Ahhh, ok. So, you're a Miking then… (groan) *B^o -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70611From: Chris N.JulsonDec 18, 1993 12:35 PM
Mike, There were some Halvorson's that lived there, thought you might have been of that clan. From the looks of Vance's post, we'll have to start a Norsk forum (G). Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70621From: Paul GerhardtDec 18, 1993 4:34 PM
Chris, Mike, & Vance, Paul Skeel Gerhardt here. My relatives in Denmark tell us that we are direct descendents of "Goram (sp ?) The Old", a big time Viking dude around the year 300. You may all get off your knees now 😉 he he he! …AutoPilot Engaged… -Paul-
#70638From: Vance SchowalterDec 18, 1993 7:24 PM
"We're NOT worthy!! We're NOT worthy!! (Shades of Wayne) *B^D -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70656From: Chris N.JulsonDec 18, 1993 11:32 PM
Paul, Ha, the old family tree gets longer and longer and ………… this has turned into a strange thread, eh? Thanks alot, Chris—–>on AP
#70583From: Vance SchowalterDec 18, 1993 12:12 AM
Have you seen the Disney's Norse village? Does it do our ancestors justice? *B^) -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#70578From: Anthony RamirezDec 17, 1993 10:04 PM
>I really dont know when 3.0 is going to be done. >The problem we are faced with right now is making the new functions easy >to use and having a proper interface. I have nothing against new features but I thought I'd tell you that the BUGS from 2.0 are still in 2.9. I know you guys are adding ALOT of features but I didn't want you guys to forget about the bugs so these get fixed before 3.0. <<< Tony D. Tracer >>> (Any render time >0 needs acceleration.)
#70603From: Mike HalvorsonDec 18, 1993 10:33 AM
Tony, We are aware of the bugs and with the help of the users we have found others that we were not aware of. I should state that our goal is to make great software that is as bug free as possible. I know that sounds like a cop out but I have yet to find a software product that was or is bugless. This is a two way street, we are always looking for better ways to make Imagine a great product, the most important ingredient is You and we look forward to a continued relationship with our user base, this is as much your software as it is ours. When we started as a company we decided that as users we would continue to listen, and we still are users who listen and then do the best we can to create a great product. Mike
#70587From: matthew straneyDec 18, 1993 1:40 AM
Hi Mike, i have 2.0 and a 3000-040' by pp&s, and a retina. is there any support for it (retina) in 2.9 or will there be in 3.0 ?? I use 2.0 w/ retinaEMU and have no problem, except that the screen is still 640×400 and when i display in Imagine it dithers in 16 colors or what ever Imagine usually does. i really like it, and its usability. is 2.9's texture format different than 3.0's will be? Matt Straney in Grand Ledge.
#70604From: Mike HalvorsonDec 18, 1993 10:38 AM
Mat, Here is the deal with the Retina Board. We have one of the early boards and it seems that there is a different version than what we have. Although there are a few of these boards around we have not gotten a rush of requests to deal with this hardware yet. I think also there are some other features that Imagine should deal with that we just dont have time to deal with this at this time. So the answer is, no direct support in 3.0 and we will look at the board with more purpose for 3.1. Mike
#70751From: Steve_CDec 20, 1993 12:43 PM
MH> Although there are a few of these Retina boards around we have not MH> gotten a rush of requests to deal with this hardware yet. How about the Picasso II boards, Mike? Are you supporting the normal screen modes through the OS with the new version? Steve — ~ QMPro 1.51a ~ MSI — Redefining Telecommunications in '93.
#70779From: Mike HalvorsonDec 20, 1993 10:00 PM
Steve, The interface runs at 640 by 400 or 480 on the PC. Any bigger at the moment and the time for redraw would be absurd. Next year we will look into this whole mess and see if we can work something out. Mike
#70806From: Steve_CDec 21, 1993 11:16 AM
MH> The interface runs at 640 by 400 or 480 on the PC. Any bigger MH> at the moment and the time for redraw would be absurd. Next year we MH> will look into this whole mess and see if we can work something out. Actually, I'm referring to the Picasso II 24 bit video card for the Amiga. I've found a textfile that explains how to change the size of the screen that Imagine initially opens which lets me use 800×600, 1024×768 or whatever I care to zap in there, but it would be nice if the new version used the 2.x/3.x screen modes from the OS this time. 🙂 Steve — ~ QMPro 1.51a ~ MSI — Redefining Telecommunications in '93.
#70839From: Mike HalvorsonDec 21, 1993 8:01 PM
Steve, One caution, I dont know what this board does, but if the software gets confused your project will most likely go bye bye. As for the interface it will remian at 640 by 400 for the time being. I realize that the computer is capable of more we just arent smart enough to keep the speed up for rendering and redraw. However once again we will work on it, promise. Mike
#70885From: Steve_CDec 22, 1993 10:51 AM
MH> One caution, I dont know what this board does, but if the MH> software gets confused your project will most likely go bye bye. As MH> for the interface it will remian at 640 by 400 for the time being. I MH> realize that the computer is capable of more we just arent smart enough MH> to keep the speed up for rendering and redraw. However once again we MH> will work on it, promise. Thanks Mike. Actually, it's working great for the most part since hacking the screen size. Steve — ~ QMPro 1.51a ~ MSI — Redefining Telecommunications in '93.