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#Amiga 386 BB and Windows

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#124966From: David R. VillanuevaDec 13, 1993 10:46 AM
Please Help: I bought a 386 bridgeboard based on magazine articles marvelling at the wonderous ways the 386 BB ran Windows apps such as Word for Windows. Of course I had the usual problems just getting the thing to boot up. I finally got it working and tried to install windows 3.1. It flailed because it apparently does not like the CGA emulation of the BB. So, I bought a VGA video adapter. Windows did load and it looked might pretty on my VGA monitor. However, using the virtual Amiga drive to load windows was reminiscent of the way the old C64's used to load… PLEASE WAIT (meaning go do your tax return or change the oil in your car while I load your app). It became clear that I had to install a dedicated hard disk and controller to run windows and its apps. I bought an IDE controller and opened my Amiga 2000. To my horror (actually what I was saying was "typical commodore") there was only ONE 16 bit expansion slot and the video card is using it. The remaining 2 slots are useless 8 bit slots. So my question is: HOW THE HEC DO YOU RUN WINDOW APPS WITH ONLY ONE 16 BIT SLOT AVAILABLE???!!!???!!!??? Thank you in advance, DRV
#124975From: Bill ReevesDec 13, 1993 12:47 PM
Have a technician add sockets to the 8 bit slots to make them into 16 bit slots. The traces are present on the more recent versions of the board… or get a multi-io board (if you can find one) that includes IDE control, VGA, and more (a popcorn popper too, as I understand). These have been listed recently in the classified section. I don't know if any are available new anymore. Good luck. Bill
#125096From: Clarence SaundersDec 14, 1993 6:03 PM
You might try using an XT type hardcard if you want to use the remaining the 8 bit slots. I thought that IDE controllers were short slotted, (they fit in the 8 bit slot) in which case you shouldn't have any problems. BTW if you had called the Microsoft Download service you could have downloaded the necessary video drivers to install Windows using the BB built in CGA emulation. Initially this is what I did and it worked fine, I later resolved myself to run Windoze in VGA mode so I got a SoundVision card with SVGA, Adlib sound, CD ROM interface and I'm now sharing the 1960 monitor between the Amiga and BB session. This works great and the only drawback now is that I'm short on space on the Hardcard even with the MS DOS 6.2 Doublespace set ON. Catya,
#125112From: Marion J DelandDec 14, 1993 7:56 PM
How does Windows look in CGA? Marion CROSSINGS Newsletter for Amiga/PC/Mac compatibility
#125190From: Clarence SaundersDec 15, 1993 10:12 AM
The best way I can describe how Windows looks in CGA mode is to instruct you to run the DOSSHELL utility and change the Display Option to Low Res graphical. Pretty much, the same look, more or less. The reason that CGA Windows was appealing was that I could run FoxPro for Windows,.. but to be honest, you would much rather run Windows under a true VGA mode (or greater). But for experimentation purposes, it's weird seeing Windows run on your BB side without the aide of a VGA monitor… Catya,
#125193From: David R. VillanuevaDec 15, 1993 12:13 PM
Like a vic-20.
#125195From: David R. VillanuevaDec 15, 1993 12:15 PM
Thanx for the input, Clarence. Can't find a multi function board anywhere. will look into finding a soundvision card.
#125227From: Clarence SaundersDec 15, 1993 11:06 PM
I better warn you first… the SoundVision card which was made by Cardinal Technologies is no longer available though Cardinal still honors any warranty for any existing card(s) out there. I got mine from a guy whom I saw advertising the product on the Internet. I figure he must have bought the remaining inventory or something. My personal experience with the card so far has been very pleasant after I ironed out some glitches with the help of the Cardinal tech support. In any case, if you are still interested, I'll get back to you with the name and phone number of the seller. Also, you might look into the Thunder Vision card which basically offers the same thing as the SoundVision, (SVGA, Adlib/Soundblaster sound) this card is advertised is most magazines for about $140.00. The SoundVision has SVGA, Adlib/Gold sound, CD ROM interface, Midi IN/OUT, and a joystick port for $120.00. Leave me E-mail if still interested.. Catya,
#125832From: Gayle Lee FairlessDec 21, 1993 11:59 PM
David, Did you try Elite Micro Computers at 908-541-4214 for their multifunction card? I have one myself but need a monitor capable of displaying VGA modes before I can use it. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! via AutoPilot 1.03a
#125097From: Ron LegroDec 14, 1993 6:12 PM
I bought an 8-bit IDE controller and it's speedy enough to handle most stuff, even Windows. But you could convert the 8-bit slots to 16 bits, or even pop for an expansion cage (even PC folks run out of slots sometimes, so these cages have appeared in recent years allowing you to add ISA slots to an overloaded machine). Also, you can save slots by getting a multifunction card — VGA, IDE, floppy I/O, parallel/serial ports all on one card.
#125196From: David R. VillanuevaDec 15, 1993 12:17 PM
Thanx for the input Ron, am having trouble finding a multi function i/o card though.
#125306From: Michael MastDec 16, 1993 12:31 PM
Look for a Winstorm board. Vortex sells them for their BB. Who needs a Clone when you got an Amiga! Motorola and Intel inside :*)
#125472From: Marion J DelandDec 18, 1993 2:09 PM
You might also try Software Link (White Plains, NY — [914] 683-2512). They had a few STB Powergraph boards recently. Marion CROSSINGS Newsletter for Amiga/PC/Mac compatibility