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#Heavy Metal

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#139844From: James M. MurphyDec 5, 1994 11:10 AM
Does anyone happen to know where I could get a personal copy of the Anuimated Trilogy "Heavy Metal" featuring the Rock Group of the same name?? I know it is not commercially available because of "court action" I also know the details surrounding the action…however one persons being responsible for holding up the release of this dated classic shouldn't keep this classic from circulation..well it has…unfortunatly. That's why I'm looking for a "personal" copy. I know if anyone has this I would be interested in obtaining it from them if the terms are reasonable. I was talking about the 3rd story to an animator freind of mine and we'd be interested in going over the storyline and viewing this classic piece if possible. Anyone??? Murph'
#139883From: Paul LindDec 5, 1994 1:32 PM
>> Does anyone happen to know where I could get a personal copy of the >> Anuimated Trilogy "Heavy Metal" featuring the Rock Group of the same >> name?? Are you referring to the Columbia Pictures release "Heavy Metal" that was directed by Gerald Patterson and produced by Ivan Reitman? It sounds like you are but you have alot of things out of wack. First there isn't "A" rock group, there is a phenomenal soundtrack including: Black Sabbath, Cheap Trick, Blue Oyster Cult, Devo, Donald Fagan, Don Felder, Grand Funk Railroad, Nazareth, Sammy Hagar, Stevie Nicks, Journey, Riggs and Trust. You can find the soundtrack on Full Moon Asylum Records. Secondly it isn't a Trilogy, it's a compilation of 7 stories from the pages of the long running magazine "Heavy Metal". The stories are: "Soft Landing" – Dan O'Bannon "Grimaldi" – Harold Whitaker "Harry Canyon" – Dan Goldberg & Len Blum "Den" – Richard Corben "Captain Sternn" – Berni Wrightson "B-17" – Dan O'Bannon "So Beautiful So Dangerous" – Angus McKie "Taarna" – Dan Goldberg & Len Blum >> I know it is not commercially available because of "court action" I >> also know the details surrounding the action…however one persons >> being responsible for holding up the release of this dated classic >> shouldn't keep this classic from circulation..well it has…unfortunatly. Actually there are a number of longstanding court actions involved in this film, and considering how long it's been tied up, it probably will continue to be. >> That's why I'm looking for a "personal" copy. PIRACY !!!!! 🙂 >> I was talking about the 3rd story to an animator freind of mine and >> we'd be interested in going over the storyline and viewing this >> classic piece if possible. >> Anyone?? Well I actually know where an original cut resides. I happen to know one of the parties who was involved with the film. He was one of my "mentors" when [>> Continued in next msg]
#139884From: Paul LindDec 5, 1994 1:32 PM
[>> Continued from previous msg] I was very young. Assuming we're talking about the same movie, which sounds highly possible, tell me a little more about which story you're talking about, i.e. – what happens in it, and I'll be glad to see what I can do. Paul
#139957From: James M. MurphyDec 5, 1994 8:24 PM
Hi Paul! Thanks' It's been a while…Ya' Know..Man….<g>. I thought I remembered 3 stories..at least at the time it seemed like 3..he..he..the ol' days..don't-ja-Know! <GB> Like Tiny Dr. Tim Say's…."If Ya' Remember the 60's….You weren't really there!". <BG> OH' Well..Another Day…Another Green/Blue, Electric-Yellow Dollar! The first one started out with the B17 Bomber flying along then a Sphere from outer space crashes through the rear of the plane. Now that I think about it it was more than 3 stories….. Anyway this Green Sphere lands in a wasted future version of New York City…..Guy in the Cab…Ray Gun…Disolves Ya-Da-YaDa. The last one was the Amazon Woman on the Bird Thingy Remember that!! Anyway I'd really like to get a good copy of this for personal use only. I had a copy of this that I picked up off of one of the Satcom Satellite Transmisions back in the early 80's but it was stolen. I was totally bummed. If you've got a way I can get a look at this It would be wonderful!! <BG> Thank You..Thank You..Thank You. Murph'
#139992From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 6, 1994 12:20 AM
Jim, I've got a copy of "Heavy Metal", but it's already 2nd or 3rd generation vhs, so Paul should be able to do a better job. Plus, my second vcr is out of action until further notice. Great movie though. I always wondered why animated sex is almost better than watching real people on film. Anyone know? Am I weird? Well, I already know the answer to that <g>.
#140088From: Kevin C. GibsonDec 6, 1994 11:10 AM
<< I always wondered why animated sex is almost better >> << than watching real people on film. Anyone know? >> Can't say that I've done enough of either to make much of a comparison. << Am I weird? >> Can't touch it….. heh heh
#140098From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 6, 1994 11:40 AM
Kevin, >> Can't say that I've done enough of either to make much of a comparison. << ROFL! You should get out more often <g>. Get thee down to toonsville.
#140113From: Kevin C. GibsonDec 6, 1994 12:41 PM
Not gonna do it. Not gonna do it. Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture. -= voice from behind the Bushes =-
#140161From: James M. MurphyDec 6, 1994 4:41 PM
Martin, >>> I've got a copy of "Heavy Metal", but it's already 2nd or 3rd generation vhs, so Paul should be able to do a better job. <<< Hopefully Paul will be able to get me a real crisp version. Animated Sex…..Hmmmmmmm I don't really have any idea what that would be like…{ Fill in the Blanks Here }. A: Being Married. B: Ya' mean they're S'Pose'Ta MOVE!!! C: You get the idea <g> Thanks again Martin! Murph'
#140255From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 6, 1994 11:50 PM
Jim, >> Animated Sex…..Hmmmmmmm I don't really have any idea what that would be like.. << I wasn't talking about BONKING the toons, I was just talking about watching them do it. That's allowed when you're married, isn't it? <g>
#140477From: James M. MurphyDec 7, 1994 4:25 PM
Martin, >> I was just talking about watching them do it. That's allowed when you're married, isn't it? <g> << Obviously your not married…………………<GR&D>. Murph'
#140569From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 7, 1994 11:56 PM
Jim, >> Obviously your not married..<GR&D>. << Oh but I am married! At least I was last time I looked towards the other side of my bed <g>.
#140755From: James M. MurphyDec 8, 1994 10:36 PM
Martin! >> Oh but I am married! At least I was last time I looked towards the other side of my bed <g>. << You Mean… You let her Sleep with You!!!! There's your problem! <BG> Murph'
#140162From: James M. MurphyDec 6, 1994 4:41 PM
Martin, First let me thank you for the red.mli…I think I know what's going on now…I've got Gamma set at 2.2 and the Two spotlights I'm useing are set at 113 L. That washes the heck out of the red's. sooooooo…There I go! <g> It comes out pink no matter what the heck I do…… Weird….. What were some of your other settings? Did you scale the geometry up or down before or after creating your lights…..? I thought I was pretty much at default but upon checking I did zoom out a couple of times before creating the logo in the shaper. The units are 1in increments but setup for Decimel however I don't think that's any problem. I can't beleive how light and Pink your material looks with my current settings… Somethings really out of Wack.????? Idea's? Murph'
#140259From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 7, 1994 12:12 AM
James, that alarm project is so far in the past, I don't know what I did. It's over 2 years since I completed it and it was probably an r2 rendering – pre-gamma correction. My suggestion is to mix some more blue in the diffuse colour and make the ambient almost black. But be aware that composite NTSC hates reds generally and you should avoid them where possible. It may be impossible to get extremely good results. If you can show the animation at component (betacam level) all the better for the reds.
#140478From: James M. MurphyDec 7, 1994 4:25 PM
Thanks Martin, Prior to your sending me the red.mli file I ended up using some extreemly dark colors and lighting changes. I hope this works out because when I compared settings this is as dark a red as I'm able to get. Being able to see your settings was a great sanity check <BG> I was thinking that there was something wrong with my setup. This is the first time I've ever had trouble with a "colour". <g> I'll go in and try what you said on the red.mli, I'm sure it'll look great. Thanks again Martin! Murph'
#140512From: Paul Sanford [LVL5]Dec 7, 1994 6:22 PM
Hi Murph' I know someone mentioned gamma before… I was trying to use a high gamma setting once (2.2?), but I was losing all subtlety with my ambient colours. It was an outer space thing, and the dark side of a moon was pitch black at ambient 0,0,0; but at L=1 it was too bright! I had to bring the gamma down to get the right effect. Maybe you should lower gamma? (No gamma arguments, please!) My dealer just isn't gettin' it done again… I may be calling you Mon. for a PAR. How soon would I get it? Paul S.
#140754From: James M. MurphyDec 8, 1994 10:36 PM
Paul, >> (No gamma arguments, please!) << Durn it! I thought we could open this can of worms up again!! <G> "Geeezzz All the _Other_ Kids get to argue about Gamma!" <GR&D> Seriously though Since I was going out to Video with a setting of 1.8 in the past I thought that going to the 2.2 Gamma recommended by some on the forum, I might solve my problem. All I ended up doing was turning down my spotlight settings to achieve the same effect….. >> My dealer just isn't gettin' it done again… I may be calling you Mon. for a PAR. How soon would I get it? << Within the Week usually,.. still got my quote?? Murph'
#140851From: Paul Sanford [LVL5]Dec 9, 1994 11:53 AM
>> "Geeezzz All the _Other_ Kids get to argue about Gamma!" <GR&D> << Well, OK…. "1.8 is the only true gamma! Follow 1.8! It is the light and the way! All other gammas are but false prophets. G.P. makes a thousand dollars every time someone uses 2.2!!!" <G,D,R,and HBTD> (Hiding Behind The Drapes) Still have your quote. I zipped it up, and it is now 1/3 less! <g> Have your # too. The contact dude at DPS (Brad) is *supposedly* really slow about getting my dealer authorized. Luckily all my jobs are on hold right now… well, er, not that that makes me lucky… Paul S.
#139896From: John StetzerDec 5, 1994 2:12 PM
>>You can find the soundtrack on Full Moon Asylum Records. Anyone know where I can get it on CD (been told that it is availible CD and that it isn't; anybody got the straight dope on it?)? Gone through 2 tapes… John Stetzer JWS