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#EDUCATING PAUL

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#143771From: Kevin C. GibsonDec 27, 1994 10:16 AM
Paul, Me… Vindictive? Mean-spirited? It could certainly be interpreted that way. How many ways could I possibly say, "I love you" and yet have it interpreted in a way that is not intended. Sanford Kennedy is playing a game. He sent a message to me titled STOP IT KEVIN. He addressed it to ALL so I couldn't erase it. He used a word he knew I would find offensive. You, on Christmas Day, a day when many people's thoughts turn to sharing, caring and giving… you thoughtlessly piled on. And you advanced logic that reveals much about you. "Sure, within reason." "I believe I have been as flexible as possible…" "Given your limited knowledge of 3DS, I can understand your difficulty." "Why do you insist on turning things into an oppressor/oppressed relationship?" "… but most think they're silly and a waste of time." I ask you: to examine the constraints you are imposing on yourself and others. to examine the logic you employ in advancing your argument. to think before you offend someone through your actions. This is only good advice that anyone contemplating a leadership position should heed. For what it's worth, it is my opinion, that there has not been enough flexibility. And what I am trying to make clear, is that there are many perspectives involved here. When you said, "within reason" you are defining and restricting. When you said, "I can understand your difficulty," you drew an erroneous conclusion. When you say "most think…" you advance an argument that begs for statistics. If you want to advance an argument and back it with the opinion of others, you might put forth a little more effort in collecting data than the casual survey you mention. Regarding effort. I've put forth much, not just for the purpose of advancing this project, but also for self-improvement. It is my wish that you take a more serious approach to learning then to rely on a quick consultation of the dictionary when you come across topics with which you are unfamiliar. The answers to issues involved in running a city are not found in a dictionary. I'm sure you realize this. I'm just underlining the point. You have offered to fill at least three positions in this project. Successful management of a project with the scope and magnitude such as this calls for more than an understanding of the technical aspects of a software package. It also requires the ability to successfully communicate. It requires the ability to empathize. It requires compassion, sensitivity and, in my opinion, a greater degree of flexibility than you have exhibited to date. This is not condemnation. It is just opinion. Mine. And you know the old adage. Opinions are like sphinxes. (G.Angle) Consider this also. If you and I have this much trouble communicating… imagine how difficult it could be for someone whose native tongue is not English. This is an international project. I am not mad at you, Paul. I hope you are not mad at me. I am disappointed in Kennedy. But I'll get over it. He's teaching me something. It's a difficult lesson to learn. You say: "I have neither the time nor the inclination to respond to this last message in parts, though so much of it begs for specific replies." I sincerely hope you will respond to my message in total. Before you do so, I hope you will look at it from a perspective you may not have considered. In any event, if you want to run a city, you will have to find the time and the inclination to deal with things that you find aggravating. Otherwise, someone else will be selected to replace you… Someone who understands the needs of others. Bundle up. Kevin
#143774From: Aaron W. OstlerDec 27, 1994 10:33 AM
Kevin, Its just that no one understands good old-fashioned southern hospitality any more. Sure, y'all might be a little long in the tooth, but that southern cooking and a little bootleg liquor more than compensate. 😉 Aaron
#143834From: Kevin C. GibsonDec 27, 1994 4:22 PM
Hi ya Aaron, Good tidings. You were saying something about… ( y'all might be a little long in the tooth… ) Long in the tooth? Reminds me of a walrus. Goo Goo Ga Joob! Not me said I. But then, I am he as you are he as you are me…. Everybody thinks the walrus was Paul. But those in the know, that is, those who follow the PGA Tour, we know that the walrus is Craig Stadler, who like me, is not well understood. He has a son named Kevin too. And a friend named Pate. Stadler's one of the good guys. He supports causes like Casa de Amparo in San Diego, a home for physically abused children. And the Kenya Wildlife Fund. A family man who cares and shares. A walrus with a long moustache. 🙂 There was a nice article about him by Lorne Rubenstein in "On Tour" Magazine recently. Do you play golf? It's also a world game. Just like mine. As far as bootleg liquor goes…. hehehe. I actually had some, one time, years ago. The bartender at a local pub had a special mason jar he pulled out when he wanted to treat a friend. It was good if memory serves me. But truthfully, when it comes to favorite beverages, I like Kahlua, nectar of the gods. <smile> I think I've done a decent job supporting trade with Mexico over the years considering my penchant for the sugary sweet coffee liquor. Congratulations on all the good news. Take care. Kev
#144001From: David GouldDec 28, 1994 5:21 PM
<<But truthfully, when it comes to favorite beverages, I like Kahlua, nectar of the gods. <smile> I think I've done a decent job supporting trade with Mexico over the yearsconsidering my penchant for the sugary sweet coffee liquor.>> No, kidding, this is my favourite vice too. My girlfriend bought me a large bottle for Christmas. She wrapped it up in Christmas paper, but I immediately recognised the bottle from it's distinctive shape. Normally we drink it here in France as a digestive after dessert. Maybe we could a glass or too some day. David "Whisper in my ear" Gould
#143828From: Paul Sanford [LVL5]Dec 27, 1994 3:15 PM
Again, I don't have the time to respond to your statements individually. If you choose, reread the lines you quoted from me in their original context, not as seperate entities. I have plenty of learning to do that is directly related to 3DS and my business. I am not going to go to the library just because you threw up a few new words. I asked you to share what they mean. I am not interested in looking for hidden meanings in everything related to this project. I am taking things at face value, not as some kind of test or puzzle created by someone/something with possible military or religious significance, etc., etc. I have a very full private and professional life in which I am constantly growing and learning. I often put in 12+ hours on 3DS. The survey and now charter require my attention too. I simply don't have time for deep exchanges that don't relate to my work or SC2000 issues. Paul S.