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#3.5 Disk drives

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#4485From: New memberJan 7, 1986 1:22 AM
I saw your message about drives and I thought I would pass along some of what I know so far about Amiga drives. All drives are not created equal! Drives for the Amiga must be able to do two things most (The ones I looked at anyway) drives do not. #1 They must be able to send "DISK CHANGED" #2 They must be able to latch the "MOTOR" signal. The part number on the Amigas external drive is P/N 134-100678-008-0 And by the way both the internal and external drives that I looked at were NEC. Two things I hated about the way Amiga did the drives was using those &#$!! "cute" DB23 connectors and making the drive control signals funky. I know they have reasons for not liking the standard arangment. I hate it too! But still who wants to pay $300.00 for a crummy $75.00 drive? Oh I forgot to mention the other particulars are 80 track double sided double density. If you do buy those bargan disk drives and they don't have the extra signals be prepared to do some soldering. It might interest you to know that the external drive has a "Paddle board" to latch motor (I Think) and provide termination for some signals. Who thinks up this ….Stuff? Oh well when I get the last bug out of my home brew external drive I'll drop another note. Right now it only works if you don't change disks. ie no "DISK CHANGED" signal……… YET!
#4499From: Steve CleverleyJan 7, 1986 2:44 AM
Thanks, I took my external drive appart this weekend and found an NEC FD1035 which seems to conform to the standard for double sided 3.5 in. drives 95mS access 250 Kbits/sec Xfer rate. I also saw that little board that I figured at least latched the disk change although reading my Tech Ref Manual intuition likes it but does not need it. But to keep the standard I feel that all other drives should support. Do the 5 1/4 inch drives also have to latch these two signals?. I did not go so far as to take out the little "Paddle board" and attempt any reverse engineering. I imagine that soon others will do so and we will see Amiga Compatible drives on the market for $150-$200. As soon as I get a cheap hard drive less than $1000 for 20MB fast access (my personal max) the second drive will most likely be sold to someone operating on a budget. It is nice to know that the drives in there are standard and can be replaced for less than the cost of a service contract on them. (if they break throw them out or sell them to a student cheap and replace yours with a new one) Another sad commentary on our throw away society.
#4547From: New memberJan 7, 1986 11:10 PM
I guess Im not sure about the 5 1/4 inch drives as far as do they need to send out diskchanged. My guess is that they do if for no other reason then to limit the second source people to those who can spend the time to figure out the changes. I was able to get away without latching motor. I just wired it on and the drive worked as far as could be expected. However the lack of a diskchanged signal throws the OS when you do change the disk and it doesnt get clued in. As far as Hard disks go I think prices will come down enough to make your $1000.00 wish come true. I just hope some body comes out with a nice SCSI output port so you can choose your own drive! Gota go thanks for the message. Jay
#4547From: New memberJan 7, 1986 11:10 PM
I guess Im not sure about the 5 1/4 inch drives as far as do they need to send out diskchanged. My guess is that they do if for no other reason then to limit the second source people to those who can spend the time to figure out the changes. I was able to get away without latching motor. I just wired it on and the drive worked as far as could be expected. However the lack of a diskchanged signal throws the OS when you do change the disk and it doesnt get clued in. As far as Hard disks go I think prices will come down enough to make your $1000.00 wish come true. I just hope some body comes out with a nice SCSI output port so you can choose your own drive! Gota go thanks for the message. Jay
#4499From: Steve CleverleyJan 7, 1986 2:44 AM
Thanks, I took my external drive appart this weekend and found an NEC FD1035 which seems to conform to the standard for double sided 3.5 in. drives 95mS access 250 Kbits/sec Xfer rate. I also saw that little board that I figured at least latched the disk change although reading my Tech Ref Manual intuition likes it but does not need it. But to keep the standard I feel that all other drives should support. Do the 5 1/4 inch drives also have to latch these two signals?. I did not go so far as to take out the little "Paddle board" and attempt any reverse engineering. I imagine that soon others will do so and we will see Amiga Compatible drives on the market for $150-$200. As soon as I get a cheap hard drive less than $1000 for 20MB fast access (my personal max) the second drive will most likely be sold to someone operating on a budget. It is nice to know that the drives in there are standard and can be replaced for less than the cost of a service contract on them. (if they break throw them out or sell them to a student cheap and replace yours with a new one) Another sad commentary on our throw away society.