CompuServe Thread

Business Accounting

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#13944From: Sylvain DufordFeb 1, 1991 12:40 PM
You sure have a point there, I just got the February Amazing Amiga. The front cover suggest that it's a business special, but alas, the only reviews are about Gold Disk Office, BGraphics, and Desktop Budget. Hardly serious business coverage in my book.
#14234From: Christopher LapriseFeb 4, 1991 8:07 PM
I just bought that same issue. They don't have to review everything at once, just make business coverage a somewhat regular occurance.
#14394From: PETER S. WASONFeb 6, 1991 1:15 PM
Just to put in my 2cents worth; most of the Amiga business software is pretty mickey mouse. I have a demo of BGraphics and unfortunately it is sorely lacking in output quality. SuperbasePro is the _only_ "real" relational/programmable database and the spreadsheets??? phew! The "business" world revolves around very few necessary tools; relational/ programmable databases, spreadsheets, high-quality printed output (who carries their cpu to a presentation? they carry laserjet printouts!) and word processors and communications software. Also, the business world is NETWORKING and the lack of networking soft/hardware, as well as incompatible file formats make it impossible for me, as a business computer consultant, to seriously reccommend an Amiga for the "standard" business office, MUCH TO MY CHAGRIN! 🙁 I have found that Lotus (quattro), Paradox, PFS Write, Freelance (charting software) and any comm package are all I need to set up any business on the IBM side; on the Amiga I do not have these choices, especially the charting software, spreadsheets and dbases. There are _plenty_ of bit-mapped graphics, communications and word processing progs out there, but where are the rest?? -Scott
#14506From: Christopher LapriseFeb 7, 1991 1:40 PM
Don't forget Accounting software! 🙂
#14526From: Sylvain DufordFeb 7, 1991 6:55 PM
Hi Scott, you certainly have a good point there. I could get by with my Ami for evrything except spreadsheets, so I'm using Quatro Pro on a BridgeBoard. I haven't checked SuperBase yet, but I heard the upcoming V4.0 will be quite nice. I gave up on accounting software for the Amiga, and I will become an official DacEasy Consultant.
#14585From: Betty Clay/SYSOPFeb 8, 1991 1:07 PM
DacEAsy????? UGGGHHHH. Betty
#14738From: Tony MuscarellaFeb 9, 1991 9:15 PM
Dac-Easy??? Why don't you just give your clients an assembly language compiler, and tell them to write their own accounting program? DacEasy is too difficult for many people, and their reports are virtually illegible, especially their trial balance. To bring this back towards an Amiga topic, the best way to record small (okay, very small) business records is with a spreadsheet. Set up a spreadsheet resembling a cash receipts and cash disbursements journal and, if you are on an accrual basis, sales and purchases journal. Post the summaries of these journals to a general ledger spreadsheet, which you can then give to your accountant to prepare financial statements. Easy… The only math really needed is addition and maybe subtraction, so any Amiga spreadsheet can handle the job. To get fancy, it's nice to have a DSUM function on the spreadsheet, so that data can be categorized more easily. SuperPlan and Maxiplan both offer this, I'm not sure about Advantage. If you wanted to get REAL fancy and link all the spreadsheets together, a spreadsheet that can call cells from another spreadsheet can automate some additional transfer work. Maxiplan offers this. I think I'll give myself an after tax-season job and write up a sample batch of templates. If anyone is interested, I'll upload them (don't expect them until May…
#14801From: tom millerFeb 10, 1991 12:59 PM
I'd be interested. I use Analyze! and MaxiPlan. If you could do Macros it would also be a large help.
#14812From: Betty Clay/SYSOPFeb 10, 1991 2:58 PM
There is a set of business templates for Advantage in AmigaUser right now – should still be in Library 1. I don't know what all of the templates do, but the description said there were sets for business and for law.
#15025From: Steve SetzerFeb 13, 1991 7:18 PM
I would also be very interested if you could upload some templates!! But please have them in .wks format as all the amiga sheets can import them. I use Splan and no one uploads spx files!!
#14559From: Malcolm O'BrienFeb 8, 1991 1:12 AM
Scott, Freelance!? I never used the charting part but the drawing part can always be used as a terrible example. Typical PC GUI (gross user interface). PC's – just say no. Malcolm
#14729From: PETER S. WASONFeb 9, 1991 8:41 PM
hehehe I agree….not very artistic or better yet, fun to use. Have you ever tried Harvard Graphics? That is *THE WORST* piece of commercially availabe software I have ever seen. Ever. The most inconsistent chunk of code yet. Sheeesh! just say NEVER! -Scott
#14783From: Malcolm O'BrienFeb 10, 1991 9:19 AM
I've never tried Harvard Graphics but I HAVE noticed something. PC users who use things that I think are junk (MultiMate, Ventura, Freelance) tend to think they're fabulous (scary). But the PC users I've known who used Harvard Graphics thought it was awful. I don't even want to SEE it!
#14824From: PETER S. WASONFeb 10, 1991 4:42 PM
It is worth seeing……after all that is beleiving! -:) Scott
#14873From: Khalid AldoseriFeb 11, 1991 6:08 AM
Malcolm, a friend of mine loves Harvard Graphics…. I've given up on him loooong ago. (grin) Someday we'll get a great graph/charts for the Amiga…. (sigh)
#15038From: Malcolm O'BrienFeb 13, 1991 10:32 PM
Hi, good to see you again. I thought the graphs in Advantage were pretty good. At least compared to Lotus. I believe there's a Graph program in Gold Disk Office but I haven't seen that package running.
#15076From: Khalid AldoseriFeb 14, 1991 6:28 AM
Malcolm, unfortunately I was spoilt by the graphs in a program called Beoing 3D (I believe) for MS-DOS computers….. makes all other graphs look like a hurried sketch.
#15150From: Ethan SolomitaFeb 14, 1991 11:48 PM
Khalid, you should look at FoxGraph. It has a range of about 40 different pre-defined 2-D graph types, 40 different pre-defined 3-D graph types, and the ability to graph z = f(x,y) type functions in lotsa colors. Also all those graphs can be rotated through all dimensions with the cursor keys in front of your eyes. It is a program to look to for ideas.
#15199From: Mark HennesseyFeb 15, 1991 6:18 PM
Harvard Gravics isn't THE worst. I used MicroSoft Chart Ver.2 and Ver.3 when I was a Co-Op intern. This program was so awfull that its performance went into the toilet when we "upgraded" versions. We should have known what to expect; it did come from those wonderful people who brought us DOS and the ever un-popular OS/2.
#15332From: PETER S. WASONFeb 17, 1991 1:10 PM
Ahh…I _forgot_ MS's chart programs…..hehehe -Saw OS/2 at Networld last week in Boston; when I tried to get a demo of the DBmanager the file server "broke"……oh well….. -Scott
#15337From: Mark HennesseyFeb 17, 1991 1:57 PM
OS/2 The old joke that its an operating system divided by 2 is still true. The first time I saw OS/2 in action, we had to put over 3 meg of RAn AT class mach"ran" ok. It just couldn't run any software. I feel sorry for the corporate drones who are forced to deal with that os for a living. Mark
#15470From: PETER S. WASONFeb 19, 1991 12:18 PM
….largest known virus in existance today…..like a bad flu….. What is truly amazing is the overhead required for OS/2……Amigados fills up one floppy!…..(really only 256k of memory!)…sheeeesh! I suppose that you give up a lot when you give up your identity for a "big blue" suit…… -Scott