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#Amiga vs Mac & IBM

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#15734From: Fannelle ColletteFeb 22, 1991 9:26 PM
Hello. I decided to join this forum even though I am a IBM user. You may ask why. I am curious about Amiga. What are the differences between Amiga and IBM? What are the strengths and weaknesses between the two machines. I find that I meet many people who have negative things to say about the Amiga. It also seems to me that many people do not use the Amiga and I would like to know why this is so (if it is so). I will soon be upgrading my IBM system and I want to get a second computer that performs on another platform. Its between Mac and Amiga. I should also say that I am interested in using my second machine for music and perhaps DTP. I welcome any comments from the other forum members. Hopefully I can learn a lot from you and receive a well rounded view of all computers.
#15737From: Tom WaznisFeb 22, 1991 10:43 PM
If a macII is good enough on that side an Amiga with Mac emulator would be by far the cheapest. DTP is still a real battle on the Amiga but I thing PageStream is the best. The PageStream cross-platform import capability can't be beat.
#15749From: Fannelle ColletteFeb 23, 1991 3:52 AM
There is a bridge board that will run the Amiga as a MAC II? Did I understand you correctly?
#15743From: Don Curtis/SYSOPFeb 22, 1991 11:32 PM
Fannelle, In may respects…the Amiga and the IBM are completely different computers. For example, the operating system on the Amiga is multi-tasking right out of the box whereas MS-DOS has no such capability. There's no 640K limit on memory nor any size limitation on disk drives. With that in mind, many programs are written differently on the Amiga than under MS-DOS. You don't need an 'all-in-one' program on the Amiga (such as a wordprocessor/spreadsheet/database) since on the Amiga, you can have your favorite of each…and run all 3 at the same time (and exchange data between them). you can have one program control or interact with another program and so forth. As to any complaints you may have heard about the Amiga, it's difficult to address them unless we know what complaints or bad things you heard. Don
#15750From: Fannelle ColletteFeb 23, 1991 3:53 AM
Interesting!! As to the negative comments I've heard, some have been from salesmen who call the machine a toy and have said there is no serious software for the machine. They have been very critical of the bridgeboard that can be used in Amiga's to run MS-DOS. They say that it is very, VERY slow. When I have asked about the Amiga, some of those salesman have made comments to me like "So, you are interested in a toy?" I have gone to several large computer stores in the NYC area (Like J & R Computer World) and have only seen game software. No business programs at all. I have also heard from someone I know who purchased an Amiga that they could not find any user groups that devoted their activities to serious programming and machine operation. The groups were primarily concerned with games! I also have Que's computer dictionary that described the Amiga as "the computer of choice for playing computer games and composing music. The machine has found little acceptance as a business computer, however, because of the lack of business software for the machine." I am a college student and I worked at Citibank over the summer. I asked the head of the department why there were no Amiga's and he said that the Amiga was not a sophiscated enough machine to meet the department's needs. He called it (that awful word) a home computer. In my own humble opinion, I think every computer should offer all kinds of programs and those programs should be top notch. I have another friend who owns an Amiga 500 that wants to get rid of it and buy an IBM clone. Why? Because he can not find a variety of software for his equipment, and he is frustrated because of that. Also, in my experience, I have noticed that many online services do not address the needs of Amiga users in the way they do IBM or Mac. Am I correct in assuming that there is no CIM version for the Amiga? These things disturb me. The machine may be exceptional, but the world does not even notice it. There are not even that many publications devoted to the Amiga.
#15765From: SyndesisFeb 23, 1991 10:01 AM
I'm sure we'd like to think that CIS looked at the relative numbers of PC, Mac and Amiga users, by measuring the traffic flow or revenue or whatever. I'm sure there are people in the Amiga community who could do it, but I'm sure it requires the cooperation and time of someone within CIS. After all, a lot of effort went into Whap!… I'm sure its developers would love to do a CIM, too. 🙂
#15897From: Malcolm O'BrienFeb 24, 1991 4:02 PM
John, > requires the cooperation and time of someone within CIS I think the nail has a serious headache now! 🙂 Malcolm
#15821From: John BianchiFeb 23, 1991 6:38 PM
Bill, I have tried to locate ANY kind of directory utility similar to SID, DiskMaster, Dirmaster, etc… with a 2 drive display showing directories with which you can do file manipulations and can't find any. Of course there must be something commercial that has some of these standard Amiga utility features, but I don't know of any. *JohnB* CIS:76256,3436
#15829From: Jane R. HansenFeb 23, 1991 10:36 PM
Fannelle, If your business is insurance, the salesman was right, there's a lack of "serious software" for the Amiga. However, if your business is in video, or music, there's plenty of "serious software" I can understand your friend's frustration in finding the "right" software for his A500. If he wants to create custom applications using macros in a spreadsheet, he's out of luck. There's lots of good software for the Amiga, including some good business packages. But some generic software stores only concentrate on the games. Why isn't there better business software? I don't know. The way I see it, it's because of the myopic vision of sofware publishers like MicroSoft and Lotus who only develop for a new platform when they receive subsidies (read bribes) from the hardware company that built the machine. — Jane H. (Writing, it's easier read than done.)
#15831From: Don Curtis/SYSOPFeb 23, 1991 11:07 PM
Fanelle, I see you have lots of other answers, so I'll be brief and address the specific points of the BridgeBoards. Plainly put, they run at exactly the same speed as an IBM XT (for the XT Bridge Board) and an IBM AT (for the AT Bridge board). Norton SI reports the same performance numbers on the Bridge as it does on the IBM. So yes, that is slow when compared to the newer 386 machines, or the Turbo XT or AT clones. But they certainly are not "very, very slow".