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#349From: Todd RossFeb 4, 1992 1:45 PM
Hi! Any orchid lovers out their? I collect mainly cattleyas, Angraecums and most recently Phragmapediums. I've enjoyed good success with the cattleya tribe hybrids and species, am just beginning to get angraecums to bloom, (they seem to have less tolerance for cool temps than my catts) I don't know a whole lot about Phragmapediums other than they like cattleya light and temp. but prefer to be kept moist. Any advice out there on these south american slippers? Thanks! Todd Ross 2/4/92 2:45 pm
#400From: judywhiteFeb 4, 1992 11:44 PM
Hi, Todd – fellow orchidist here. Do you belong to the American Orchid Society? I write a monthly article for their magazine and wrote a 7-part beginner's series for them last year. Phrags are terrestrial, unlike cattleyas and angraceums, so they like to stay wetter; the mix should be a finer one, with more shredded bark or sphagnum or some such (still, of course, not soil). Some people even grow phrags sitting in trays of water; they often grow in nature next to riverbanks that flood seasonally and the roots are underwater for long periods of time. I got to see Phrag pearcei and Phrag lindeni growing naturally in Ecuador last year; amazing sight, thousands (literally) of pearcei in bloom at once. Phrags are quite definitely some of my favorite choice orchids; they are endangered and recently listed on CITES (Convention on International Trade of Endangered Species) Appendix 1, so they can't be imported anymore, only propagated by seed here in the U.S. (which, fortunately, is happening more and more). Light conditions a bit less than cattleyas, temps about the same or slightly warmer. They grow very like paphiopedilums. I find, however, they are enormously sensitive to salts, especially in fertilizer and water. Use rainwater if you can. You're right to grow the angraceums warmer than cattleyas; they don't like night temperatures much below 60 degrees F; catts can go to 50. If you don't belong to the AOS, by all means, join. They put out a beautiful full color 100 page monthly magazine, with lots of member freebies – Handbook on Orchid Culture, book and video discounts, show schedules, local society info, all the mail-order ads you could dream of, etc. 6000 South Olive Avenue, West Palm Beach, Fla 33405. $30/year and worth it. Where are you growing, and how?
#425From: Todd RossFeb 5, 1992 9:51 AM
Thanks for the quick response! I live in Goshen N.H. Thats basically South Central western N.H. Borderline Zone 4/5 depending on which climate map your looking at. I am a windowsill grower. I built my own home last summer with growing things (especially orchids) in mind. My exposure is SW, slightly more to the west so I get lots of winter sun (when it shines). All my orchids with the exception of my one Phalenopsis and Paph. get about 4-6 hours of direct sun and then bright light the rest of the day. I also grow some large specimen plants such as Bananas, Ginger and Ficus. Within in the next couple of weeks I will be rearranging everything so the orchids will receive more indirect light. I wait until the Feb. sun is strong enough to melt snow and ice even though the outside temp. may be below freezing. In the summer all the catts go outside underneath trees. I fertilize about once a month in the summer with 20-20-20, 1 tsp per gal. I read quite a while about using high phophorous fertilzer to increase cold hardiness in outdoor plants. I apply this to my Cattelyas. In mid august they get weak alternating solutions of 10-30-20 and 5-50-17. Believe it or not they were outside until october 6th this past fall and experienced temps. in the mid 30's. This has worked for me in the past and produces richly colored longer lasting blooms that are admittedly slightly smaller. The trade off is worth it though. I had BLC Oconee Mendenhall in bloom for almost 7 weeks! All of my Catts are hybrids except Laelia Anceps (Which Ll [C likes it cool anyway and R. Digbyana. Speaking of which any suggestions on how to get that one to bloom? I have a very healthy plant that grows well and has about 12 leaves and produces 3 new growths a year. But it has never bloomed. By the way I am an AOS member. I always looking for "end u [Cuser" experience.
#441From: judywhiteFeb 5, 1992 5:10 PM
Todd: Sounds like you've got excellent conditions for the light-lovers. I'd hesitate about the 5-50-17; you're going to eventually lose leaf growth because of flower production – blossom booster ratios should be more than plenty. You also might wait til september to apply that. Research has shown that you get more benefit from the fertilizer if applied more often in weaker strength, like once weekly for three weeks, at a quarter or half the strength you're currently using monthly, then watering with plain water to flush salts out the fourth week. Digbyana needs an incredible amount of light; you could probably double what it's getting now to make it finally bloom. They do tend to be reluctant; leaf color needs lots of red at the tips for flowers to initiate. Some cultivars bloom easier than others; do you have a named clone? Worth the trouble to bloom it; unbelievable scent and color. I love digbyana. Do you also have R. glauca? White, but even more unbelievable scent. Seven weeks for Oconee 'Mendenhall'! Must be the cool conditions. Cold always does make the color richer; nice to hear they'll bounce down to the 30's – actually, that's probably your secret to good bud initiation. Do you belong to your local society? I lectured there once, I think; do you know Paul and Elaine Sawyer at Sawyer's Exotic Greenhouse in NH? Some of my favorite people.
#522From: Todd RossFeb 6, 1992 10:11 AM
I have been to Sawyer's Exotic Greenhouses a couple of times and I do attend the N.H. Orchid Society's orchid auction every year but I am not currently a member. I have met Paul and Elaine and you're right great people. Then again I haven't met too many orchid lover's I didn't like. We seem to be a passionate bunch. I remember reading an AOS bulletin shortly before I got my first orchid (a big bold fragrant pink brasso) about how people get addic ted to orchids, I laughed! But I soon found myself giving away my non-orchid plants to make room for more orchids. Someday I'll have a greenhouse. I enjoy collecting orchids that are intensely fragrant and I have found Cattleyas and Angraecums to have some of the most fragrant flowers. The phragmapediums I like because they are just about the most exotic looking of all orchids. I have a division of Zygopetalum mackyi with one healthy new growth and another on the way. I understand it is VERY fragrant any tips on this one? Thanks! Todd Ross 2/6/92 11:05am
#531From: judywhiteFeb 6, 1992 1:34 PM
Z. mackeyi is a great plant with super scent. Like most thin-leaved orchids, it can "accordion" if your humidity is too low – sure sign that you need to add more. It likes to be underpotted – tends to crawl over the sides and wave roots around. Temps like the catts, light a bit less. Less of a camel than the catts. Not terribly fussy. I once wrote an orchid article that compared growing them to eating potato chips – impossible to have just one. Incredibly seductive, ain't they?
#606From: Todd RossFeb 7, 1992 8:39 AM
Definitely, The label on my Digbyana simply reads B. Digbyana (Bot.). It was purchased from Stewart Orchids so I'm pretty sure it's not a jungle collected plant, probably one raised from jungle collected seed. I am wintering it in a greenhouse at a friends place we'll see what happens. This winter has been grayer than usual here in New England so I don't know if even that will help. It's funny I have a yellow Catt that is very vigorous and is of unknown parentage but the flowers very closely resemble digbyana. It blooms once in the spring and again in the fall. It grow almost continuously. By the way, what causes yellow catts to come out with "crinkled" leaves. The plant I just mentioned does it, an E. tampense x BLC.fortune, and a yellow potinara all exhibit this characteristic. Sometimes but not always the flowers are also deformed. Is it hereditary or or growing conditions or a combination? Maybe they're not as tolerant as my other colors to my cool growing conditions? I was just looking through the back of my most recent AOS bulletin and ran across some Phrag.bessae hybrid seedlings, expensive but I'll have to get at least one. I've been waiting a long time for these! Todd Ross 2/7/92 9:40 am
#623From: judywhiteFeb 7, 1992 12:24 PM
Todd – The crinkling and flower distortion ("crippling") is probably hereditary; may be some weird triploid stuff going on, although who knows? I have a compot of Phrag. besseae (if you call six seedlings a compot, and no, i wouldn't want to part with any) that i got from Pui Chin out in San Francisco; he's a magnificent grower and breeder – has his own sowing lab and his stuff's great. He's really well-known for Masdevallias and Disas (can you imagine being good at both of THOSE!) which he grows OUTSIDE year round. Before you buy one besseae, you might call Pui to see what a compot or his seedlings would cost (if he's got any, that is; he's a small operation). Address is 2936 Baker Str, SF, CA 94123. 415-567-4715. Besseae is unbelievable, i agree wholeheartedly.
#631From: Todd RossFeb 7, 1992 2:25 PM
Thanks for the info! I really appreciate it! I will get a hefty tax return this year because of all the deductions I can take from my house building project. I've promised myself to indulge in at least one new orchid but a few would better. I do envy the growing conditions coastal Californians enjoy, but after talking to a friend of mine who just moved there about all the water problems they're having I'd rather have the cold. I used to say New England seemed to be about the safest place to live in the U.S. as far as natural disasters are concerned. That is until NASA released it's recent report concerning ozone depletion. But of of course this is an un natural disaster in much the same way the irrigation of the deserts of Southern California is un natural. But I'm off on a tangent I should be saving this for the Earth Forum. On a completely different subject one of my other interests is the restoration of the American Chestnut (Castanea Dentata). I recently joined the American Chestnut Foundation. I mention this because I have branches from American Chestnuts that are quite old, the wood just doesn't rot. It does however split, with many perfect cracks and crevices for epiphytic roots. I have never mounted an orchid before becuase it's rather tough to grow mounted orchids on a windowsill. It's something I've wondered about though. What should I do in terms of treating the wood for mounting. It's not rotted at all, just weathered.
#663From: judywhiteFeb 7, 1992 10:23 PM
You've got to have good humidity for mounted orchids, and a penchant for watering a lot. Basically you don't have to do anything to the wood, but the more furrowed the ridges, the better the bark is for orchids to cling to and the better for water to be retained on the surface. How furrowed is your chestnut? You can train the plants by tying them on with fishing line; the roots will eventually cling all by themselves and you can remove the line if you want. Take a look at the plant and figure out which way it's likely to grow, and then leave lots of room in that direction on the wood. Lots of people keep a bucket for dipping mounted orchids in the water, but you've got to be cognizant of spreading virus that way. One plant that does well mounted, surprisingly, is L. anceps, which i think you mentioned you have. How do you like having your own personal AOS Question Box here? (and so fast and efficient!) You know orchid people – they love sharing knowledge. Could be the Greatest People On Earth, much akin to New Jersey being the Greatest Tomato State…
#778From: Todd RossFeb 10, 1992 10:15 AM
It's great, but I must confess I feel a bit guilty I don't have more to share with you! I've been growing orchids for about 10 years now and have about 60 different plants. My smallest is Angraecum Rutenberginium the largest being a BLC Oconee "Mendenhall". I'm very excited because I've got 3 plants that are blooming for the first time. Angranthes Grandelena x Angraecum vigueri, C. Peregrine "Corulea" x C. Trianae "Kay Mine" (my first "blue") and L. rupestris x BLC. Oconee "Mendenhall". The plant form of the last cross mentioned is like a large L.rupestris. It is perfect Windowsill plant, only being about 10" high, it's in a 4" pot and has several leaves. It is very compact. I've also got a cross of E. tampensis and BLC Fortune. It is roughly the same size although the leaves are somewhat "wispy" after the E. tampense parent. The tampensis used was the "alba" form so the hope is for a nice mini concolor yellow. It does occasionally produce those crinkled leaves. It should bloom on the next growth which so far looks normal. I want to make a cross of these 2 plants with the hope of getting something in the red to art shades, fragrance, and compactness. Also the rupestris O. mendehall cross should lend vigor since it is a very robust plant, the tampensis fortune cross is not as vigorous and tends to be somewhat slower growing. What do you think? I'll try and get pictures and a scan of the 3 new ones to upload after I photograph them. See ya! Todd Ross 2/10/92 11:10 am