CompuServe Thread

#WHAP!

15 messages in this thread
#20273From: Keith RichardsFeb 11, 1992 6:56 PM
HELP!! I have now tied for over an hour ON LINE to attempt to download the lates WHAP!. absolutely no joy ay all. Frankly I am now totally confused… ALL ? I want is simple keystrokes to find and download the program, and also I have problems re speed 40cps, what is the best way to improve on this. I have XModem, YModem, WXModem, CIS-B, Quick-B, Kermit, ZModem, and Sadie ??. I just seem to be incapable of acheiving a satisfactory rate for downloading, and in fact I have a heck of a problem to even obtain ANY Downlods at all! I Run my own BB, and as all other private ones I know, there is never any problems at all, most do ZModem anyway, and it don't matter how you go on line for the transfer, why on earth is Compuserve so blasted impenitrable, any ideas,and its SLOOOWWWW. No Autowrap???, etc and finally on a node is bloody expensive, and I cannot get any technical help to sort out log on problems, my avarage success rate is about 1 in 3 OK.. Well after all that rambling, van anybody help ? Keith.
#20281From: Michael GerardFeb 11, 1992 11:06 PM
Keith: Use Quick-B protocol for all of your file transfers on CIS. You can 'test' downloading by typing GO PARACTICE at any cis system prompt. PRACTICE is a forum where normal connect charges are suspended, and you can download files, read messages etc., without wastimg money. Michael ….from the north coast
#20314From: Keith RichardsFeb 12, 1992 6:30 PM
Thanks very much, I will certainly try as you suggest. oone thing though, how the hell do I make any sence out of BT… NO, don't bother to answer, it's impossible thanks Keith
#20293From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPFeb 12, 1992 6:29 AM
Sorry you're having problems downloading. Until you get the hang of things, you should trying to download from the Practice Forum (GO PRACTICE). The (s]<tice Forum is FREE, so you can take your time while learning. You should be using Quick-B protocol. Which terminal program are you using? What terminal settings (Parity, etc)? Steve
#20315From: Keith RichardsFeb 12, 1992 6:37 PM
Thanks for the help, you must be telepathic, the same answer was suggested by someone else (75505,1757). I will try, but (as always), there is a snag…. I have to pay a surcharge for the dubious use of British Telecom,,uhgh. so sadly it still will cost,still it should at least be less thanks Keith. p.s. I have just looked at my buffer (I never had before!), and heck theres a hell of a lot of ^H 's etc etc, I hope they do not come out your end, it took me ages to even get the amiga to destructive backspace, beleive it or not, no one at cserve here could help!
#20333From: Don Curtis/SYSOPFeb 12, 1992 11:34 PM
Keith, CIS will do a destructive backspace…easily, but it does it by sending a ^H space ^H. Don
#20352From: Keith RichardsFeb 13, 1992 7:50 PM
thanks, however I have managed to get one key working ok, that is the left arrow (delete-back), but the delete (straight), is way out, and since I am used to an auto-wrap with every other file I use, I find this very irritating, if I hit the delet key, a whole load of unremovable rubbish is left on the screen. Thanks anyway,Keith.
#20361From: Don Curtis/SYSOPFeb 14, 1992 12:06 AM
Keith, Well…ok. But as to the DEL key…not sure what you all in the UK have things setup…but here in the old US of A, delete removes the character under the cursor. Since your cursor is always on the NEXT space you'll type into, there's nothing under it to delete. Backspace on the other hand, removes the character to the left of the cursor…as you've noted. CIS does nothing with the delete key, so if you're seeing some form of effect, it probably has something to do with your network connection. Don
#20320From: Rodger PadgettFeb 12, 1992 7:13 PM
Keith, Use Quick-B as Whap! uses it. It gives the best rates for transfers. Sign on to the practice forum to practice downloading wihtout hastle and little cost. Then go to Amigavendor and select the ATI library. Type "DOW Whap19g.lzh"! That should get the file. Good luck Rodger – via Whap!
#20341From: Steve AhlstromFeb 13, 1992 11:52 AM
Actually, Whap! uses B+. The difference between B+ and Quick-B is that B+ has the resumable download feature and it's block size is larger (1k blocks compared to 512 byte blocks). -sja- via AP 0.04A
#20398From: Rodger PadgettFeb 15, 1992 8:12 AM
My mistake. It seems to be my month for them! Oh well, you don't learn without mistakes. At least I don't. Rodger – via Whap!
#20329From: Betty Clay/SYSOPFeb 12, 1992 9:08 PM
Keith, we have tried this before, but here goes again: First of all, if you are a member of ICPUG, you can get the latest version of WHAP from your ICPUG Amiga disk copier, because I sent it over to their librarian as soon as it came out. If not, and you need to download it from here, do this: GO AMIGAVEND LIB 9 DOW WHP19G.LZH PROTO:QB (Set your terminal program for QuickB before you start.) Then, CompuServe will ask, NAME FOR YOUR COMPUTER, and you give it the name of the path and the filename you want it to have on your disk, such as (just an example) RAM:WHAP.LZH After you give the filename, CompuServe and your computer will do the rest. Betty
#20351From: Keith RichardsFeb 13, 1992 7:46 PM
Thanks, well I did download OK before, but I can only assume that something h has altered since I was last on a long time back now, (ill health), as far as I was concened was that I had already downloaded whap! and had no luck at all this time, I am not to know of a change, and you are not exepected to say when obviuosly, however whaen I first tried out whap! a londg time ago, and had trouble with the sign on string, I dent a message message, as asked in the literature, and got a very abrupt unhelpfull answer, so i lost interest. What on earth is the point of stressing that you must be sure it works ok before registering, and given a number to contact, then seeming to dis a perfectly resonable question? sorry about all the errors,but I have givn up the unequal struggle trying to use an editor without wraparound, and a proper delete…. Thanks Keith
#20365From: Betty Clay/SYSOPFeb 14, 1992 12:17 AM
Keith, The editor that comes with Whap! has wraparound and text can be edited rather easily. It is definitely not a word processor, but it does make it easy to compose messages, and it sends them back automatically. Whap! really IS worth the effort of getting it going. When it is updated, it is always to fix a problem with the system software of CompuServe. CIS has made lots of changes in the past year, and those changes make it necessary for the authors of Whap! to update it to match those changes. Betty
#20381From: Joe WylotFeb 14, 1992 7:04 PM
Keith, I see you are still having problems getting Whap! running properly. It sounds as if you haven't got the current version (1.9G). Mail me your address and I will send you a copy on disk. Also, I believe you are using Dialplus which gave me no end of problems too. Are you sure that direct access to the ci$ London node is dearer bearing in mind the higher communication surcharge for using Dialplus? Joe Wylot (UK) – via Whap!