CompuServe Thread

Rob, Thinking it over, in the commercial end, something like DPaint II, or Photon Paint for graphics work, and one of the music programs for those so inclined. (I include here many Shareware programs. Stress what Shareware is in your address to the newbodies 8) PopCLI, ConMan, Uedit, Mach, etc. ad nausem to make the envoirment a little more easier to use. For telecommunications, Aterm, Access or CoComm, as well as Keep (for users of major networks) mentioning VT100, StarTerm, and Ahost as well as the many other PD/Shareware terms available. Some are better than most commercial terms! (But Diga!, flawed as it is, still is the most flexible of the commercial ones. Online users need not be upset at that statement! 8) For graphics, Ushow or one of its ilk, and the animation players, like Movie, ShowAnim, etc for the various animation schemes around. (A display utility is a must!) I am not too heavy into the music end of the Amiga, but a sound/music player does go a long ways to making things that much more entertaining. For those time friends come over and ask, "What'll it do?" A demo of the Probe type is most impressive. As well as many others avaiable here and at many dealers/companies for free or a nominal charge. They also get the mind churning at the thought of what the user might whip up. System maintanance: a diskfile editor/zapper, a DUI type interface, maybe something like CoPilot or Browser, and some neat little instructional type things, Like Nick/Chris's Structure Browser, from the Transactor. I have been most general here, as most of the interesting things I can think of are either here, or on the Fish disk sets, and my particular areas of interest may differ from another's. Games are another topic altogether. <to be continued>

Rob, Thinking it over, in the commercial end, something like DPaint II, or Photon Paint for graphics work, and one of the music programs for those so inclined. (I include here many Shareware programs. Stress what Shareware is in your address to the newbodies 8) PopCLI, ConMan, Uedit, Mach, etc. ad nausem to make the envoirment a little more easier to use. For telecommunications, Aterm, Access or CoComm, as well as Keep (for users of major networks) mentioning VT100, StarTerm, and Ahost as well as the many other PD/Shareware terms available. Some are better than most commercial terms! (But Diga!, flawed as it is, still is the most flexible of the commercial ones. Online users need not be upset at that statement! 8) For graphics, Ushow or one of its ilk, and the animation players, like Movie, ShowAnim, etc for the various animation schemes around. (A display utility is a must!) I am not too heavy into the music end of the Amiga, but a sound/music player does go a long ways to making things that much more entertaining. For those time friends come over and ask, "What'll it do?" A demo of the Probe type is most impressive. As well as many others avaiable here and at many dealers/companies for free or a nominal charge. They also get the mind churning at the thought of what the user might whip up. System maintanance: a diskfile editor/zapper, a DUI type interface, maybe something like CoPilot or Browser, and some neat little instructional type things, Like Nick/Chris's Structure Browser, from the Transactor. I have been most general here, as most of the interesting things I can think of are either here, or on the Fish disk sets, and my particular areas of interest may differ from another's. Games are another topic altogether. <to be continued>

<continuation of previous> Just some thoughts, Doug

<continuation of previous> Just some thoughts, Doug

Rob, Here are some thoughts on PD/Shareware 'must have' titles: PopCLI, ASDG's RRD, TextReader, more (or less), avail defdisk, structure browser, browser, ARP stuff, Conman (or Csh), Funckeys (the one by Anson Mah), ARC, ushow REZ, GOMF (1.0), DUxx (whatever version available) Clipit, Snipit, setbeep (or beepit), pause, setpri assigndev, sectorama, newzap, help, whereis, remind disksalv, setfont, SiliCON, Blitzfonts, makeacv/loadacv aterm, Cocomm, Handhsake, VT100, Access!, Whap, pm, NGI brush2icon, icon2brush, icontype, zapicon, journal, mandfxp diff, sed, ro, roff, amoeba invaders, ZicZacZoe… Whew… there are so many! -larry

Rob, Here are some thoughts on PD/Shareware 'must have' titles: PopCLI, ASDG's RRD, TextReader, more (or less), avail defdisk, structure browser, browser, ARP stuff, Conman (or Csh), Funckeys (the one by Anson Mah), ARC, ushow REZ, GOMF (1.0), DUxx (whatever version available) Clipit, Snipit, setbeep (or beepit), pause, setpri assigndev, sectorama, newzap, help, whereis, remind disksalv, setfont, SiliCON, Blitzfonts, makeacv/loadacv aterm, Cocomm, Handhsake, VT100, Access!, Whap, pm, NGI brush2icon, icon2brush, icontype, zapicon, journal, mandfxp diff, sed, ro, roff, amoeba invaders, ZicZacZoe… Whew… there are so many! -larry

Arc; several comm programs… Access is the best one to reccomend, though it may require extra memory – Kieth??? A DirUtil – I like III, I also like IV. Browser – unquestionably. IFFENCODE. SuperView, with it's attendant Author program, and nocycle. MAKE them get Dpaint. <grin>. The only animation *I* would reccomend is Probe; the others are just frame flippers, no "spice" at all, excpet for one I saw recently, "Ghost Pool". FixHunk. SetFont II. For Icons, alticon, iconize, itype, zapicon. Blitzfonts, no question. Journal; Playback; memwatch (though I hate it, it's useful) morerows; mkidir (essential – makes dirs w/drawers) NewZap; runback; SetPri (that's a shameless plug, there <grin>) UEDIT; WBlace; GOMF 1.0; ChangeKickStart (assuming they have an a1000) PrtDrvGen (printer Driver Generator) The NEWTEK Demo; If they have or paln to use a 68010, Fix68010 is _essential_; Planes; LED, if they have an 500 or a 2000; SpTil (A print spooler, really fine!) CZL if they have a casio and are into midi; More; The AUX device; ASDG's VD0; Two or more of the neat collections of fonts here in the DLs, or where ever they originally came from; Assembler, compiler, languages of choice. Howzat? –Ben–

Arc; several comm programs… Access is the best one to reccomend, though it may require extra memory – Kieth??? A DirUtil – I like III, I also like IV. Browser – unquestionably. IFFENCODE. SuperView, with it's attendant Author program, and nocycle. MAKE them get Dpaint. <grin>. The only animation *I* would reccomend is Probe; the others are just frame flippers, no "spice" at all, excpet for one I saw recently, "Ghost Pool". FixHunk. SetFont II. For Icons, alticon, iconize, itype, zapicon. Blitzfonts, no question. Journal; Playback; memwatch (though I hate it, it's useful) morerows; mkidir (essential – makes dirs w/drawers) NewZap; runback; SetPri (that's a shameless plug, there <grin>) UEDIT; WBlace; GOMF 1.0; ChangeKickStart (assuming they have an a1000) PrtDrvGen (printer Driver Generator) The NEWTEK Demo; If they have or paln to use a 68010, Fix68010 is _essential_; Planes; LED, if they have an 500 or a 2000; SpTil (A print spooler, really fine!) CZL if they have a casio and are into midi; More; The AUX device; ASDG's VD0; Two or more of the neat collections of fonts here in the DLs, or where ever they originally came from; Assembler, compiler, languages of choice. Howzat? –Ben–

ConMan is practically indespensible, especially if you came from a C64 and are used to full screen editing of commands. Also, even if you could afford (or were given) all 136 Fish disks, I'd hate to see anyone go through all of them. Although there are a lot of usefull programs available in public domain, investigating all of them for even a few minutes each (plus un-arcing them) would eventually lead to frustration and the feeling that the new user is accomplishing nothing with his new machine. Claude

ConMan is practically indespensible, especially if you came from a C64 and are used to full screen editing of commands. Also, even if you could afford (or were given) all 136 Fish disks, I'd hate to see anyone go through all of them. Although there are a lot of usefull programs available in public domain, investigating all of them for even a few minutes each (plus un-arcing them) would eventually lead to frustration and the feeling that the new user is accomplishing nothing with his new machine. Claude