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#B1-step hrdware fix

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#33586From: Charles MichalFeb 18, 1992 4:59 PM
(to those of us with B-step problems), We had major problems moving into Release 11 because of "B step" 80386 chips in our vintage (1987) Acer Model 1100 16mH machines. All software fixes/patches were for nought. Got no help from Acer for a long while – in part because the motherboard on these early machines were of proprietary design. (I was told they couldn't give me just any Intel chip – we had to wait until Acer/Intel worked out some agreement.) Eventually Acer came forward with a $300 offer to replace these problematic mother boards and chips with newer 20mH models. This would have been fine but that meant (I believe) I'd have to buy a new $co-processor$ as well. Add in downtime while units shipped back to factory….Ugh. I didn't feel like investing too much in this hardware (no IDE drives, no on-board cache, etc.) Found a way out – some of you may have noticed that in early documentation for Release 11/c1 the discussion of the B-step problem refered to hardware fixes and mentioned a company called Ironwood. The referenced was deleted from the presumably more up to date readme file, and is not in 11/c2 documentation. In my opinion it should not have been. I contacted Ironwood Electronics, POB 21151, St. Paul, MN 55121 (612-431-7025) and had an item called FIX-80386 shipped overnight letter for only $164. This chip fits between the 80386 and the motherboard and has made it possible for me to run Release 11 on my old machines. Hope this helps others.
#33984From: Carl Bethea [Adesk]Feb 21, 1992 12:40 PM
Charles – The FIX-80386 insert from Ironwood solves Erratum 21. The FIX chip does not solve Erratum 17, which is the cause of most of the problems we see. Only a new CPU will solve that problem. We have ERRAT17.EXP, an ADS program that works around the INTEL bug, available for R11. To be fair to Ironwood, our ADS program won't solve Erratum 21, but most manufacturers have built a fix into the motherboard for that one. If the ADS program doesn't help, you may also need the FIX chip. A new CPU is the best answer.
#34107From: Charles MichalFeb 22, 1992 2:07 AM
Thanks for your help and comments. I didn't realize the Ironwood FIX386, which I have, handled only the Errata21 problem. Errata17 is incredibly erratic :-), obviously — by following instructions for the software patch (I load the errata17.exp from my ACAD.ADS file) I seem to have solved my problems. Again, thanks to all who listened to my increasingly paranoid lament.