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Animation Marketing

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#9532From: MARTIN G FOSTERFeb 20, 1992 7:41 PM
If you mean how much is charged for laying sequential .tgas to tape, then I know companies who charge $50 per finished second, some who charge $1 per .tga file, and one which charges $40 per hour – the latter being by far the cheapest. There was also somebody on the forum many months ago offering the service for something completely outrageous ( I thought) and it was much more than even $100 per finished second but I don't remember exactly how much. Do you want to offer the service or do you need the service?
#9610From: Roger DanielsenFeb 21, 1992 11:38 PM
Martin, Actually, what I was trying to get a handle on is how much I should be charging for my animation services. I have a Diaquest (DQ422) and have access to SVHS and MII. there's probably not a lot of people on this forum that need _my_ help, but I have stirred up some interest with some local video people. I'm a little foggy on benchmarks, so I have to start somewhere. Roger D.
#9635From: MARTIN G FOSTERFeb 22, 1992 8:27 PM
I freelance for a CADD company and they charge $100-$400 per finished second to tape depending on complexity. I get half of this. If I solicit my own clients I try and charge $50 per hour but I'm pretty slow and tend to tweak things for hours, so that's not always possible. Other independents around here charge $100 to $150 per hour. We did a lot of research on the competition to decide what to charge so it might be a good idea to do that in your area. Try finding out who is offering comparable services and what they charge per hour and/or per finished second and then charge accordingly.
#9675From: Roger DanielsenFeb 23, 1992 9:08 PM
Thanks Martin, that's what I was looking for. Have you done any work for broadcast tv? Roger D.
#9720From: MARTIN G FOSTERFeb 24, 1992 2:50 PM
I have done commercials for various cable station advertisers in the Los Angeles/Orange County area and also animation for corporate videos for training, trade shows etc. I haven't done anything for network TV though. Most cable advertisers don't have much in the way of advertising budgets, though, so if they really want animation I can easily win a bid against animation houses with Symbolics or Wavefront type equipment.
#9754From: Roger DanielsenFeb 24, 1992 11:47 PM
Martin, Through my experience in the building and remodeling business I've had occasion to do a lot of subcontracting and bidding. So I'm curious how the bidding process would work in something so subjective as computer art (animation). Does the process go something like we work for so much an hour (minutes, seconds, frames), or do they have a creative idea and you would have to bid on it, sort of like name that tune? Forgive my ignorance. I very much appreciate your help. Roger D.
#9756From: MARTIN G FOSTERFeb 25, 1992 12:35 AM
I think it could go both ways, there. Frequently the client knows exactly what they want and it's just a matter of deciding how long it will take you to do and then multiplying that by your hourly rate to come up with a bid. Or saying that's 10 seconds of animation and it's fairly simplistic so I'll charge $100 per second. On the other hand, the client might say "create a logo that will knock my socks off!" and have little or no creative input. I've worked with both and sometimes you need to spend a long time with the client just clarifying what they want and doing a storyboard, script etc. before you can give them a quote. Generally, I work on the finished second basis, where the variable is the dollar amount per second which YOU have to decide based on the complexity. I don't think bidding is an exact art in animation and I don't profess to be much good at it, so just give it your best shot and start high and if/when they fall off their chair you can always come down.
#9673From: james hydeFeb 23, 1992 6:57 PM
Martin, I got a flyer from a local MAC house offering to lay PICT files to BetaSP for something like $.50 a frame $200 minimun. James
#9719From: MARTIN G FOSTERFeb 24, 1992 2:50 PM
I don't suppose that helps if you have .tgas?
#9771From: james hydeFeb 25, 1992 10:16 AM
Martin, I just mentioned it to give a relative price for disk-to-tape services. I'm not aware of any other local service that advertises this kind of service, although many will offer it if asked. James
#9725From: Ken Loss-CutlerFeb 24, 1992 3:16 PM
Who was the local Mac shop, James? Ken Loss-Cutler
#9772From: james hydeFeb 25, 1992 10:16 AM
Ken, That was DNA Productions, I believe they branched out of 2D-Cell only to offer 3D as well. James
#9810From: Ken Loss-CutlerFeb 25, 1992 11:31 PM
I'll have to check that out. If they have, we may not be able to refer work to them anymore. For their sake, I hope they stayed in 2d. Ken Loss-Cutler