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#9419From: Larry MintonFeb 19, 1992 11:02 AM
I recently purchased and installed "Stacker" ("doubles your hard disk") on the machine I do my 3DS work on. On this system I try to keep all unused software "ZIPped" to maximize free disk space. Needless to say, Stacker didn't do much for me (compression ratio 1.2:1). The types of files that Stacker can't compress any further are: ZIP, GIF, compressed TGA. I'm not complaining, because this was pretty much expected. Anyhow, all you that want to double your disk space, buy another disk! LAM
#9446From: CSA/CAFeb 19, 1992 3:41 PM
You can .ZIP compressed .TGA files though for a greater savings.
#9457From: Matthew J. D'ErricoFeb 19, 1992 8:09 PM
This is indeed a limitation, although some GIF's aren't compressed, so you may see some improvement there… I run stacker (v2.0) on a variety of machines… The difference between stacker and ZIP is that stacker is designed for real-time compression, while ZIP, LZH, ARC, etc. are not… Although if you follow the progression of all of the above, the compression ratios have been increasing steadily… You may find that by using stacker, you don't have to ZIP your files at all, which is its intent. What I do, is use ZIP as an archive mechanism on an unstacked diskette, or on the portion of my disk that's "unstacked" (I leave a fairly large portion for Windows Permanent Swap file, ZIPs, etc…). I still feel that stacker is well worth the investment since my 200MB hard drive has over 400MB of data on it right now, and I still have over 100MB reported left…
#9536From: Greg Moore [SPEA,INC]Feb 20, 1992 8:26 PM
Larry, I just recently got Stacker 2.0 also and I am not really suprised by what you said. Pkunzip and Stacker both work on the same general principal, data compression. using both I would not expect a disk with a lot of zip files to show a much increase when "stacked". The best example I can think of at the moment is putting several .zip files into another .zip file with the result being 0 (as in zero) commpression. I believe that that the principal is the same with stacker and zip files. With non zip files you will see a higher rate of compression. Stac Technology has not yet had training from the IRS.<g> I did the same thing you did, I stacked the drive I had Acad 11 & 3ds stored. The result was that I went from a drive that had less then 5MB free to one that had 28MB! free. I haven't stacked all my drives but I like the extra space….$90 beats the 'ell out of $200-250 for a new disk that would run out of space shortly anyway. I'd say buy Stacker. Greg Moore SPEA, Inc
#9778From: David TaffetFeb 25, 1992 12:34 PM
Had any problems with Stacker? Lost or corrupted files, or anything? David Taffet
#9946From: Greg Moore [SPEA,INC]Feb 28, 1992 12:56 PM
David, Before I answer you question about stacker let me give you a bit of background. One of the guys I work with knows some one at the company that makes SuperStor and he got a a few eval copies. He installed it on his entire HD and I installed it on just one small partition (4MB). Both of us liked the increase in space however, after a few days I started to notice strange things like batch file not completing properly and other strange things but scratched may head and continued working. The other guy ended up having to reformat his HD and was able to restore from backups, I had to reformat also but did not lose any thing worth worrying about. Needless to say, after that I wasn't to thrilled by data compression. Several months went by and one of the techie type here had heard lots of good stuff from his techie type friends about Stacker. To make a long story short…He bought it, tried it, had no problems. I bought a copy on his recommendation and installed it on the partition where I store all my Autodesk software (2 vers. of Autocad, 3DS, and assoc Adesk stuff) ONLY backing it up. I installed it and it has worked flawlessly so far!! no data loss, no weird stuff happening, and I'm considering installing it on other drives. it even works with our Bernoulli cartridges!! (44MB to 88) I would say that I am (although I hate the term) a "power user" and have far from your basic computer. I am currently using qemm 6.0, Super PC-kwik on a dell 486/25 with 8MB ram with a 100 internal HD (ide), a SPEA 1280, Lantastic net card, Future domain SCSI controller attached to a Ricoh RS-9200 E2 optical cartridge drive 650MB (GREAT drive!!!), and now and then a CD-rom and/or a Bernoulli drive. after being real paranoid about STACKER (vers 2.0) I have to say its Great stuff!! excellent programming!! But don't buy the hardware version, The software by it self is fast enough. sorry for being so long winded Greg Moore SPEA, Inc.
#9850From: Terry GilbertFeb 26, 1992 9:31 PM
Greg, One side benefit of Stacker is that it can increase the effective throughput of a slow drive. I use Syquest cartridges for extended storage space. They are fine but the accress time is around 25ms. Before Stacker I rarely loaded files off the syquest directly. Once I Stacked the cartridge the apparent speed is enough that I can use it directly!
#9948From: Greg Moore [SPEA,INC]Feb 28, 1992 12:56 PM
Terry, the speed increase sounds interesting….the Ricoh drive I have is great but not the fastest (+- 100ms) I wonder if I can stac a scsi drive ? gee that could be interesting…279MB (+- 293,000 bytes) on a side could become over 500Mb !?!?!? and be FASTER ?!?! just think of the FLC file I could create with that much space…1280x1024x256 by 10 frame <g> I'll also let the people with bernoulli boxes know about the speed increase. Thanks Terry, Greg Moore SPEA, Inc
#9965From: Terry GilbertFeb 28, 1992 6:23 PM
I am using SCSI for both my Maxtor 200MB driver and for the 44MB Syquest drive. It works great. I think that any drive that looks like a normal drive to DOS should work. The Syquest requires a driver to implement removable drives. Without the driver it looks like a 40MB hard disk. I haven't tried Stacker with a Bernoulli, but it would certainly be worth a try. The speed increase has to come from a higher effective transfer rate. I suppose (if the stacker drive isn't overly fragmented) you get a better access time since the data is packed into fewer tracks.
#9998From: SyndesisFeb 29, 1992 1:51 PM
I have an Adaptec SCSI card running my CD-ROM drive. I just bought a Syquest for my Amiga, but I'd like to use it on all my machines. I think the Mac requires special software to handle removeable drives. What extra software do you use to run your Syquest on the PC? The one I bought was formerly used on a Unix machine and came with no software for any type of PC.
#10023From: Terry GilbertMar 1, 1992 12:41 PM
You can use the drive without software but DOS treats it as a nonremovable drive. To enable cartridge swapping, you need a driver that you can get from Syquest's BBS. You need to call Syquest at 415.226.4000 and tell them you need to get the driver. They will give you the BBS# and a password. This also contains the formatting software that you will need in anycase. The file is SQPREP.ZIP. If you have trouble getting it from them (shouldn't) let me know and I'll email it to you. Yoou might call Adaptec to verify that the Syquest it supported by their adaptor. I use the Always IN2000 adaptor and did have to get the most recent ROM to use a Syquest.