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#Keyhole Limpet Fossil

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#119174From: Bill Webb /CAJan 27, 1994 10:39 PM
A friend recently presented me with a fossil of two keyhole limpets, joined in a foot-to-foot embrace. I have searched much and found nothing resembling a Kama Sutra for limpets. I have never so much as caught a live limpet pair in passionate embrace, so I am much puzzled by this specimen. It probably came from the Santa Margarita formation, Upper Middle Miocene, and was found in San Luis Obispo County, Calif. The specimen is actually a cast, in chalcedony (week green fluorescence in SW), with none of the original shell material evident. The surface sculpture of the shells is well preserved, and even the keyhole is clearly visible. It measures approx 350 mm in diameter and the combined elevation of the two almost equal sized shells is about 250 mm. A chunk of siliceous shale matrix obscures a part of the specimen. Now if some paleontological types with a streak of prurience would like to see this, I will make a photograph and convert it to a .GIF file and upload it. And if anyone has knowledge of how limpets do it, please let us know! Bill
#119333From: Michael SternbergJan 29, 1994 12:30 AM
Bill – is that really 350mm by 250mm? Those are some giant limpets! I have looked through my marine invert books but haven't found a reference to mating habits. I suspect that they do not move into a mirror image formation, as it provides no anchor against buffeting currents. More likely they do it side by side. Michael (still looking)
#119378From: Bill Webb /CAJan 29, 1994 2:33 PM
Sorry Michael.. Got a little carried away there. 35 by 25 is more better. My guess would be side by side, too. In fact, I can't imagine a limpet loosening itself from it rock long enough, if at all, to manage a belly to belly. But then, how did these two get together? I am photographing it and will stick a .gif file in shortly. Bill
#119415From: Michael SternbergJan 29, 1994 9:52 PM
If the limpets were dead and the interior of their shells were mud filled, then perhaps they simply adhered to each other. I have a Pecten with a limpet attached from the Miocene. Interesting death assemblage too. Michael
#119488From: Bill Webb /CAJan 30, 1994 8:18 PM
A better interpretation, I think, that molloscan conjugation. B.
#119490From: Michael SternbergJan 30, 1994 8:26 PM
However……I think you should explain the relative postions to anyone else as fossilized sex. That is a much more intriguing subject for discussion. <g> Michael
#119623From: Bill Webb /CAJan 31, 1994 11:03 PM
Wait until you see the picture. It *is* intriguing!
#119510From: Doug MitchellJan 30, 1994 10:22 PM
Hi, Bill– I figure like you guys that is an improbable position for living limpets to assume. If you are minded to make more sure, you could try asking in the biology section – someone there may know about habits of living limpets if not ancient species. –Doug
#119624From: Bill Webb /CAJan 31, 1994 11:03 PM
Doug.. The logistics of copulation of limpets is most unlikely to include releasing themselves from their rock. Reading up on this disclosed that limpets not only cling to the rock, but when hungry slip out of their berth and mosey about the rock, but then go home when the mosey is over with. And no other limpets are supposed to occupy that berth in the absence of its owner. Some little homing instinct and territoriality here. Interesting. My first foray into photographing and scanning (el cheapo hand scanner) gave something I'm not proud enough of to upload. More effort ahead.. Bill
#119814From: Doug MitchellFeb 2, 1994 11:10 PM
So what happens if a limpet steals a berth from another limpet while it was just out for a quick stroll around the rock? A fight? Should we alert ESPN? Maybe this is how your limpets got attached to each other… 🙂 Were the photos you attempted of minerals? How did they come out before scanning? A scanner with high resolution is certainly desirable for this sort of thing – how does the one you used rate?
#119898From: Bill Webb /CAFeb 3, 1994 11:51 PM
I was hoping to get something that would help you guys see those limpets in action. <g>. But I've decided my scanner.. an old sheet fed Dest.. is not worth the tin its made of. So I was on the phone to my connection to see if I could manage something better, and I am on the trail of specs for a couple of machines, the top B&W HP, and equal or worse Microteck (?). If the budget can stand it, I will have a new scanner, flat bed this time, and with some kind of decent resolution.. perhaps in a few days. THEN, we can peep at the limpets. –Bill