#HD drives
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Has any one here ever tried to make an IBM disk drive work on the Amiga 1200.
If anyone has any ideas let me know, I bought a teac drive capable of 2 meg
diskettes, I tried installing it to my external drive, the system just reported
it as a non dos disk, I couldn't even format a HD diskette. It's better to buy
a 40 dollar drive than spend 200(same model teac drive for the amiga as i got).
JP >> Has any one here ever tried to make an IBM disk drive work on the
Amiga 1200. If anyone has any ideas let me know, I bought a teac drive
capable of 2 meg diskettes […]<<
Ok here's the deal….
The Amiga's floppy controller consists largely of the Paula & Gary/Gayle
chips. This gives a DMA floppy controller capable of handling four 1-meg
floppy devices, at the costs of the controller being intergrated into the
motherboard.
The Amiga floppy controller's maximum tranfer rate is 300Kps, which is
pretty good considering that DSDD (1-meg, double-sided/double-density)
tranfers at a rate of 250kps at 300rpm (rotations-per-minute) of the
disk.
Unfortunately, the DSHD (2-meg, double-sided/high-density) disks used by
IBM/Clones tranfer data at 500Kps at 300rpm. This is too fast for the
Amiga's controller to handle.
Commodore solved this problem by having a special dual-speed, HiDensity
floppy drive developped from them (by Chinon). This drive functions
normally with DSDD disks, but slow down to half speed when using HiD disks
(500Kps at 150rpm, gives a data transfer rate of 250kps). The disks still
hold twice as much, but doesn't tranfer at twice the speed.
The Amiga can format the HiD floppies at either 1.76Kb or 1.44Kb (PC
format).
You can still install an IBM HiDensity drive in the Amiga, but you will
need to use the Amiga's interface standard, and you will only be able to
use in in DSDD mode.
If your interested in a HiDensity drive for the Amiga, you will need the
Commodore dual-speed drive. You might be able too get the dual-speed
internal drive (for the A4000) for $99 and use it in the external case.
If you find the newer "low profile" version, you could use it to replace
the A1200's internal drive.
Ron.
– ap'ing with AP. (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
into jet engines.)
Thanks, I did find a dealer selling the 4000 HD disk drives for $100. they're
also selling another companies version for 200 dollars, they say the other
drive is 3 times faster than the Commodore drive, I wonder if they have a
massive cache on the drive itself or if they overcame the hardware problem
through software(it comes with a driver for the DEVS: drawer). I'll buy both
and test them, then let everyone know.
The drive might be 3 times faster, but Paula isn't, so you aren't going to
get an effective performance increase.
— Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
— INTERNET:dale@iam.com
JP >>I did find a dealer selling the 4000 HD disk drives for $100. they're
also selling another companies version for 200 dollars, they say the other
drive is 3 times faster than the Commodore drive, I wonder if they have a
massive cache on the drive itself or if they overcame the hardware problem
through software(it comes with a driver for the DEVS: drawer)<<
There is an IBM HiDensity drive that has been "interfaced" to work with
the Amiga. It does use caching to hold data being read from the drive
(the cache is in the drive case). This also requires a software patch, as
this drive can't be used with the normal "trackdisk.device" that drives
the Commodore DSDD & HiD dual-speed drives.
As for the speed of this HiD drive, I don't know. But if it uses the
Paula, it will still have a 300Kps bottleneck.
If you really want a HiD drive or better, a drive that hooks up to a SCSI
interface may be the way to go. The name escapes me, but I believe there
is a SCSI floppy drive that can handle 21-meg disks, and 720K & 1.44K IBM
formatted disks.
Ron.
– ap'ing with AP. (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
into jet engines.)
I'm going to have to call some dealers and check into this SCSI drive,
it would work with my 12 guage and I'd have a whole 2 SCSI devices on
my system!!(haha) I think they call those floptical drives but
they're like 300 bucks or something like that, I'll check into it and
let all know.