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#17637From: M.C.TablerMay 6, 1986 10:02 PM
Well, there's another one of THOSE LETTERS in the current Keyboard mag. I'm drafting a reply, but one of the allegations is new to me–this gentleman says here that "Amiga World magazine is being entirely underwritten by Commodore, in contrast to the many genuine Atari magazines like Antic." I know, I know, it sounds outrageous, but I thought I'd make sure so I don't embarass myself too much. I mean, maybe the cost of one of those back covers is enough to run Amiga World for two months, hm? The rest of the missive has all the usual stuff about how the Amiga's CPU can't get at the bus because the graphics chips hog it and multitasking is available on the ST and all kinds of other cool things for the ST will be out very very soon… Whattaya think of the bone-chilling truth about Amiga World's financial backing, eh? Is Amazing getting any, do ya think?
#17646From: Jim Nangano/SYSOPMay 6, 1986 10:39 PM
Give'm hell in your reply! ….Jim
#17646From: Jim Nangano/SYSOPMay 6, 1986 10:39 PM
Give'm hell in your reply! ….Jim
#17695From: Bela Lubkin/SysopMay 7, 1986 2:23 AM
The rumor of CBM underwriting AW was quite strong a few months ago. I thought I'd even heard confirmation — but the deal was something where CBM guaranteed profitability on the magazine, or something like that, for the first few issues. Apparently CW Communications offered the same deal to CBM and Atari, and only CBM went for it. Remember, I'm talking from rumors here. I'm not sure how you'd follow up on the lead. Both parties will surely tell you to go away, whether or not it's true… – Bela
#17807From: M.C.TablerMay 7, 1986 10:26 PM
..further on this…got the new FAUG newsletter today; Guy Wright, editor of AmigaWorld is quoted as saying, "AMIGA WORLD MAGAZINE is doing very well. We sell out of 100,000 issues per run. As a matter of fact, we will most likely show a profit in 1986, almost unheard of this soon in the life of a magazine." This is in a description of last month's Amiga Faire in San Jose, where Wright was in attendance.
#17807From: M.C.TablerMay 7, 1986 10:26 PM
..further on this…got the new FAUG newsletter today; Guy Wright, editor of AmigaWorld is quoted as saying, "AMIGA WORLD MAGAZINE is doing very well. We sell out of 100,000 issues per run. As a matter of fact, we will most likely show a profit in 1986, almost unheard of this soon in the life of a magazine." This is in a description of last month's Amiga Faire in San Jose, where Wright was in attendance.
#17695From: Bela Lubkin/SysopMay 7, 1986 2:23 AM
The rumor of CBM underwriting AW was quite strong a few months ago. I thought I'd even heard confirmation — but the deal was something where CBM guaranteed profitability on the magazine, or something like that, for the first few issues. Apparently CW Communications offered the same deal to CBM and Atari, and only CBM went for it. Remember, I'm talking from rumors here. I'm not sure how you'd follow up on the lead. Both parties will surely tell you to go away, whether or not it's true… – Bela
#17700From: Steve AhlstromMay 7, 1986 2:47 AM
AmigaWorld was (and may still be) totally underwritten by CBM.
#17760From: John FoustMay 7, 1986 6:02 PM
AmigaWorld was underwritten in some form by CBM – the Columbia Journalism Review reported that last summer. I don't remember which issue. I asked an editor at AW about this once, and he said they had enough money, and I know they are planning the December and January issues already. They work so far in advance! BTW, Amazing Computing's sole funding was Don Hicks' mortgage on his house. How's that for dedication? The magazine is doing well. The issue after the COMDEX issue (that's August cover) will be four-color cover, if all goes well. Hopefully, it will expand past 64 pages, and jump to eighty pages soon. Maybe the July issue, if we can write enough about COMDEX.
#17815From: Marlene ZenkerMay 7, 1986 10:57 PM
AmigaWorld is such a piece of trash – I am not proud to admit that I have a subscription. I would really like to see Amazing Computing become as well known as BYTE, and blow AM back to whatever planet it came from!
#17861From: Jim Nangano/SYSOPMay 8, 1986 1:34 AM
Marlene, I have to say one thing about AmigaWorld. I recieved a cancelation notice from them, because they thought I did not pay for the subscription yet. I have a cancelled check proving that I did. But I am not even going to go to the trouble of fighting with them about it. I won't miss much! …Jim
#17908From: John FoustMay 8, 1986 9:22 AM
Speaking of Byte, the last thing Mr. Pournelle said to me, after I gave him copies of Amazing Computing, was "Hm. Let's see if we can't double your circulation." Move over, Byte! At the show, I met a lot of Atari publishing people, too – like the publisher of Antic. Even though this guy publishes a half-dozen Atari and Apple mags now, a friend reminded me that he started in his basement five or so years ago, just like Don Hicks. And Hank Schilling, for that matter. Has anyone else received that brochure on that new Amiga magazine, Envision? Expensive critter – $80 a year – and that gives you quarterly issues, with 8 x 10 color glossies, and a disk, and a cassette tape. Wow. And we thought AmigaWorld had a surplus of "creative" energies. Sounds like a real coffee-table mag.
#17915From: Jim Nangano/SYSOPMay 8, 1986 1:28 PM
all we need is another glossy fluff mag, sigh! What do you suppose is gonna be on the cassette anyway? New Wave Music produced on the Amiga? —–Jim
#17956From: John FoustMay 8, 1986 9:17 PM
The letter said the cassette was going to have the latest Amiga music, both native Amiga sound and MIDI.
#18039From: John FoustMay 9, 1986 1:17 PM
The funniest thing about shows like COMDEX is that a computer manufacturer can set up $10,000 worth of MIDI synths and sound equipment, and drive it all with a dinky computer and a MIDI interface, and many people will attribute the great sound to the dinky computer. At COMDEX, the Atari booth had at least $10,000 of audio gear (six-foot speakers,a Yamaha TR rack mount, (fully loaded with the equivalent of 8 DX-7s), a separate DX-7, a Juno I think, a drum box, and a Sleazy 101…) and people were saying "Boy, that ST has really great sound." Sheesh.
#18039From: John FoustMay 9, 1986 1:17 PM
The funniest thing about shows like COMDEX is that a computer manufacturer can set up $10,000 worth of MIDI synths and sound equipment, and drive it all with a dinky computer and a MIDI interface, and many people will attribute the great sound to the dinky computer. At COMDEX, the Atari booth had at least $10,000 of audio gear (six-foot speakers,a Yamaha TR rack mount, (fully loaded with the equivalent of 8 DX-7s), a separate DX-7, a Juno I think, a drum box, and a Sleazy 101…) and people were saying "Boy, that ST has really great sound." Sheesh.
#17956From: John FoustMay 8, 1986 9:17 PM
The letter said the cassette was going to have the latest Amiga music, both native Amiga sound and MIDI.
#17984From: J. Eric ChardMay 9, 1986 12:14 AM
It is bad enough that Dr. Dobbs guppied out and became "Software Tools"… no style.
#17984From: J. Eric ChardMay 9, 1986 12:14 AM
It is bad enough that Dr. Dobbs guppied out and became "Software Tools"… no style.
#17915From: Jim Nangano/SYSOPMay 8, 1986 1:28 PM
all we need is another glossy fluff mag, sigh! What do you suppose is gonna be on the cassette anyway? New Wave Music produced on the Amiga? —–Jim
#17908From: John FoustMay 8, 1986 9:22 AM
Speaking of Byte, the last thing Mr. Pournelle said to me, after I gave him copies of Amazing Computing, was "Hm. Let's see if we can't double your circulation." Move over, Byte! At the show, I met a lot of Atari publishing people, too – like the publisher of Antic. Even though this guy publishes a half-dozen Atari and Apple mags now, a friend reminded me that he started in his basement five or so years ago, just like Don Hicks. And Hank Schilling, for that matter. Has anyone else received that brochure on that new Amiga magazine, Envision? Expensive critter – $80 a year – and that gives you quarterly issues, with 8 x 10 color glossies, and a disk, and a cassette tape. Wow. And we thought AmigaWorld had a surplus of "creative" energies. Sounds like a real coffee-table mag.
#17983From: J. Eric ChardMay 9, 1986 12:12 AM
Concur! Any magazine with Margaret Marabito on the staff should be avoided…her bowing and scraping before the alter of the CBM Plus-4 was extreme embarrasing…Kono hito totemo warui desu!
#18041From: John FoustMay 9, 1986 1:17 PM
Another Japanese-speaking gaijin! Watashi-wa daigaku-de nihon-go-o benkyo shimashita. (Hope I got that right. Wasuremashita, ne! Romaji muzukashi desu ne! The Hepburn system this ain't…)
#18049From: Richard Rae/SYSOPMay 9, 1986 4:06 PM
John, Uh, I thought I told you that Section 12 of the Forum has been set aside for all Japanese dialog. <grin> Best, -<Dave>-
#18049From: Richard Rae/SYSOPMay 9, 1986 4:06 PM
John, Uh, I thought I told you that Section 12 of the Forum has been set aside for all Japanese dialog. <grin> Best, -<Dave>-
#18115From: J. Eric ChardMay 10, 1986 1:31 AM
Iie, romaji yasashi desu. Katakana ka hiragana hoshii desu ka?
#18144From: Marlene ZenkerMay 10, 1986 7:27 AM
would you guys stop speaking spanish around here…some of us only speak a few languages other than English (like Basic, C, etc!) (hehe)
#18144From: Marlene ZenkerMay 10, 1986 7:27 AM
would you guys stop speaking spanish around here…some of us only speak a few languages other than English (like Basic, C, etc!) (hehe)
#18115From: J. Eric ChardMay 10, 1986 1:31 AM
Iie, romaji yasashi desu. Katakana ka hiragana hoshii desu ka?
#18041From: John FoustMay 9, 1986 1:17 PM
Another Japanese-speaking gaijin! Watashi-wa daigaku-de nihon-go-o benkyo shimashita. (Hope I got that right. Wasuremashita, ne! Romaji muzukashi desu ne! The Hepburn system this ain't…)
#17983From: J. Eric ChardMay 9, 1986 12:12 AM
Concur! Any magazine with Margaret Marabito on the staff should be avoided…her bowing and scraping before the alter of the CBM Plus-4 was extreme embarrasing…Kono hito totemo warui desu!
#17861From: Jim Nangano/SYSOPMay 8, 1986 1:34 AM
Marlene, I have to say one thing about AmigaWorld. I recieved a cancelation notice from them, because they thought I did not pay for the subscription yet. I have a cancelled check proving that I did. But I am not even going to go to the trouble of fighting with them about it. I won't miss much! …Jim
#17815From: Marlene ZenkerMay 7, 1986 10:57 PM
AmigaWorld is such a piece of trash – I am not proud to admit that I have a subscription. I would really like to see Amazing Computing become as well known as BYTE, and blow AM back to whatever planet it came from!
#17981From: J. Eric ChardMay 9, 1986 12:08 AM
Glad to hear Amazing Computing is doing well- there is more content in one page in AC than all four issues of Amigawhirled…
#17981From: J. Eric ChardMay 9, 1986 12:08 AM
Glad to hear Amazing Computing is doing well- there is more content in one page in AC than all four issues of Amigawhirled…
#18048From: Aegis DevelopmentMay 9, 1986 2:37 PM
MacWorld was also started by Apple, it the mark of a respectable hardware manufactuer … spending $$$ to make sure users get a GREAT magazine. Totally professional.
#18048From: Aegis DevelopmentMay 9, 1986 2:37 PM
MacWorld was also started by Apple, it the mark of a respectable hardware manufactuer … spending $$$ to make sure users get a GREAT magazine. Totally professional.
#17760From: John FoustMay 7, 1986 6:02 PM
AmigaWorld was underwritten in some form by CBM – the Columbia Journalism Review reported that last summer. I don't remember which issue. I asked an editor at AW about this once, and he said they had enough money, and I know they are planning the December and January issues already. They work so far in advance! BTW, Amazing Computing's sole funding was Don Hicks' mortgage on his house. How's that for dedication? The magazine is doing well. The issue after the COMDEX issue (that's August cover) will be four-color cover, if all goes well. Hopefully, it will expand past 64 pages, and jump to eighty pages soon. Maybe the July issue, if we can write enough about COMDEX.
#17808From: M.C.TablerMay 7, 1986 10:30 PM
Well that's reality for ya…it sounds like it's getting big enough to wean, though. Editor Wright says they'll probably show a profit in '86, which is unusual for a magazine as new as Amigaworld.
#17851From: Steve AhlstromMay 8, 1986 1:17 AM
I like the 'slickness' of AmigaWorld — but content is another matter! The first 2 issues of Amazing Computing had more info than all issues of AmigaWorld has had!
#17851From: Steve AhlstromMay 8, 1986 1:17 AM
I like the 'slickness' of AmigaWorld — but content is another matter! The first 2 issues of Amazing Computing had more info than all issues of AmigaWorld has had!
#17808From: M.C.TablerMay 7, 1986 10:30 PM
Well that's reality for ya…it sounds like it's getting big enough to wean, though. Editor Wright says they'll probably show a profit in '86, which is unusual for a magazine as new as Amigaworld.
#17700From: Steve AhlstromMay 7, 1986 2:47 AM
AmigaWorld was (and may still be) totally underwritten by CBM.