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#Postscript printing

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#29006From: Mark SterlingJan 5, 1989 3:54 PM
I just saw an ad for a utility that allows printing of a Postscript file on a non-postscript laser or dot-matrix printer. The ad was printed with the utility and looked pretty sharp. They called the output analytic as opposed to bit-mapped. If this works then it is just what I am looking for. I have an HP Deskjet printer and Professional Page. The printer is great but the output from Pro Page dismal. Pagestream apparently has uch capability built in (or should I say it WILL?) but they have had my for 7 mos. and have yet to ship. The program is called PrintScript from Pixelations (CI$ 73407,76). I am awaiting further info from them. It MAY not be available (read "created") yet. If there is another way to do this then I am all ears. ….Mark Sterling 74335,1677 P.S. The ad is in Feb Amiga world p.108
#29082From: PixelationsJan 6, 1989 12:11 AM
Mark, Sorry about the delay in responding to your EMAIL – we expected the ad to appear after Jan 17th, and have been quite busy. The "analytic" refers to the fonts, which are defined in PostScript (i.e., as paths or geometric definitions). We feel that the results are far superior to bit-mapped fonts, even with smoothing. The ad copy was done on an HP LaserJet series II, but looks the same on an HP DeskJet. Naturally the output isn't as great on a dot-matrix printer, but a 24-pin printer will give quite usable results. PrintScript IS created, and we are working towards release early in February. I hope it will meet your expectations! (It does work with Pro Page.) Justin Fisher Pixelations
#29086From: John DraperJan 6, 1989 12:35 AM
Justin, What is the price of PrintScript? -larry
#29149From: PixelationsJan 6, 1989 12:01 PM
Larry, PrintScript costs $89. We'll be selling it initially only through direct mail order; maybe after it proves itself distributors will be interested. We prefer not to take orders until we're ready to ship- we'll let you know when that is. Our release is scheduled for early February; I know, I know, "Real Soon Now"- but we HAVE stayed on schedule so far! Amanda Fisher Pixelations
#29157From: John DraperJan 6, 1989 1:57 PM
Amanda, Thanks for the info. Will you be able to take VISA (if not, chances are I won't be interested until it comes to my dealer). -larry
#29186From: PixelationsJan 6, 1989 7:08 PM
Larry, We're in the process of arranging to accept Visa and Mastercard, but I don't really know how long the paperwork will take. Amanda Fisher Pixelations
#29217From: John DraperJan 6, 1989 10:06 PM
Thanks Amanda, Please keep us posted as to the progress of the program and the VISA status. -larry
#29122From: Mark SterlingJan 6, 1989 7:44 AM
Justin, This is good news. I just replied to Email from Amanda Fisher. I am looking forward to receiving further info from you. Need a beta test site? I am NOhRDkk[]-_VK7(xPI+Jie. I have an A1000 with an Insider and a CMI Accellerator with a 68881 coprocessor. If haven't already done so you might consider utilizing the new IEEE math libs that can use the math coprocessor in this configuration as well as the Ronin or A2620 type coprocessor setup. Am I right in assuming that this is a math intensive process that takes awhile w/out a coprocessor? Thanks again! ….Mark
#29150From: PixelationsJan 6, 1989 12:01 PM
Mark, We DO use the IEEE math libraries, but we don't yet have the co-processor board ourselves. Assuming the libraries work as they're supposed to, you will be using your co-processor with our package. It IS a pretty math-intensive process! Amanda Fisher Pixelations
#29168From: Mark SterlingJan 6, 1989 6:06 PM
Amanda, Great! Using the math coprocessor with the IEEE libs speeds up the few programs I have that are written that way by 2-10 times. It wouldn't speed up tranmission time to the printer but the calculations would FLY! ….Mark Sterling
#29126From: Khalid AldoseriJan 6, 1989 8:27 AM
Justin, now that's what I need. I WANT IT! BTW, how much is it. Also, how much time does it take to print a complex page compared to a 'straight' postscript printer? Khalid.
#29151From: PixelationsJan 6, 1989 12:01 PM
TS[ +>(Pldoseri 7Y2F%+6D /UALX }8[Zd PrintScript costs $89, and will be released in early February. We haven't done any side-by-side comparisons of performance between ourselves and a PostScript printer. Our AmigaWorld ad took about 15 minutes to print; our ad in the March Info- which is more elaborate and includes an image- took about 25-30 minutes. The Laserjet requires a long time for transmission- about 15 minutes per page. An all-text page will print in close to that time, and the time increases as the page gets more elaborate. The real benefit of PrintScript, of course, is that with it one can get nice results without the cost of buying a fully-equipped PostScript printer. Amanda Fisher Pixelations
#29154From: Khalid AldoseriJan 6, 1989 12:26 PM
Amanda, the price is very good. Much cheaper than a PS printer. BTW, do you print at 300dpi fullpage, and if so, how much mem would the LJ need. I've got 1.5 meg in my LJII. Also, how about doing a PostScript previewer, i.e. a program that will display PS output on the screen. Should be much faster than sending to the printer, and will save a lot of time if the 'page' wasn't what you really wanted. I know that's a lot of questions, but I really like the idea of PS->LJ translation. At one time around two months ago I was going to write such a beast, but didn't have the time. Seems like you beat me to it! (grin) This is one thing that we beat the IBM (yuck) world in. YAY! They had to spend thousands of $$$ to add PostScript to the LJ. Well Done, Pixelations! Khalid.
#29182From: Michael St. LaurentJan 6, 1989 6:21 PM
No, we haven't beaten them yet. Just matched them (they have a similar program that does the same thing, tho it's not as easy to use). -msl-/
#29339From: Mike/CompuStore W-GermanJan 7, 1989 4:01 PM
and it's more expensive as yours! -Mike
#29185From: PixelationsJan 6, 1989 7:08 PM
Khalid, We do print at 300dpi full-page. Our HP Laserjet also has 1.5M, so that's certainly enough! You're right- a screen display would definitely save time when you're setting up a page and trying to get it just right. (It's also very useful when debugging the interpreter!) Our version isn't real pretty or "Amiga-ized", since we did it originally for debugging, but it does work. We've put polishing it down on our "wish list" for future releases. It's best when used to get a particular part just right- the screen resolution isn't good enough to do justice to an entire page- parts would be simplified beyond recognition. But you would still be able to get an overview. Thanks for your interest and encouragement! Amanda Fisher Pixelations
#29244From: John Sobernheim(TCR)Jan 6, 1989 11:14 PM
Amanda, I haven't had much experience with postscript (DTP in general) but I saw a demo of a similar product to yours a while back and one thing in particular blew me away. Now this product was running on a 25Mhz RISC processor w/4MB of onboard RAM as an add in board for an ms-dos based machine, but still … What blew me away was the 'interpretivness' of the language. This guy typed in something like… font Blah-Blah set 45 rotate 500 100 display "Whatever" print_this_page_now! Will we be able to do similar things with your Pixelations package? -John
#29328From: PixelationsJan 7, 1989 3:21 PM
John, Yes, PrintScript can handle direct commands, as well as PostScript files generated by a DTP- or other- package. You'll be able to use PostScript in the same manner as the demo you saw. Amanda Fisher Pixelations
#29232From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJan 6, 1989 10:52 PM
This is wonderful news. I'd be VERY interested in that. Please tell me more about the price and uses. Betty
#29327From: PixelationsJan 7, 1989 3:20 PM
Betty, PrintScript costs $89 and will be released in early February. It allows you to print a PostScript file at the best resolution your printI n handle, rather than bypassing PoSRAt and printing a screen-resolution bit-map. PostScript files can be generated with packages from other vendors, such as Professional Page and several from LaserUp! as a few examples, or the PostScript commands can be entered directly. In either case, you'll get the best-looking output your printer can create. Thanks for your interest! Amanda Fisher Pixelations
#29381From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJan 7, 1989 11:46 PM
Do you know of any spreadsheets that can generate a Postscript file? Saw the question earlier today, and didn't know of one. Betty
#29292From: Bob NaffzigerJan 7, 1989 6:54 AM
Amanda What fonts will you support ? Will we have to buy Postscript fonts ? Bob Naffziger – Vivid Copy
#29329From: PixelationsJan 7, 1989 3:21 PM
Bob, PrintScript supports PostScript fonts. It comes with two- a Times-like one, and a Helvetica-like one. Be careful though – the metrics are not yet the same as Adobe's. We also support PostScript fonts from other vendors, such as LaserUp! In fact, we use LaserUp!'s "Classic" font in our ads in the March AmigaWorld and the next Info. I hope that as PostScript becomes more popular the number of PostScript fonts available will begin to rival the number of bit-mapped fonts we can find now. Amanda Fisher Pixelations