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#HD Hell

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#132816From: Lewis J. AlbertsFeb 19, 1994 7:35 PM
My GVP A500HD was screwing up for a while. I was waiting to get AmiBack, n the interim the HD got worse. Lately the sys was telling me it wasn't a DOS disk. I tried to re-format the HD, and was told it couldn't format one particular portion. When I tried to use HD install I get the message that DH0A is not a DOS disk. At a guess there is something more wrong than the data. Any ideas? GVP's tech support is off line for a few weeks. Meanwhile I lost Auto Pilot…does any one know if I can get AP without having to re-register/ pay? Since this HD problem I have been seriously considering a SyQuest unit, in particular the one which can R/W to both the 44mg and the 88mg. Any one out there with experience with this SyQuest unit?
#132833From: John M. VreelandFeb 19, 1994 11:15 PM
Hey, you just reminded me…think I'll go back up my hard drive. -Vree 54 days without a 2.04
#132842From: David HammFeb 20, 1994 1:12 AM
Hi Lewis, I've been using the Syquest 44 MB for years and have been happy with that purchase… I have no experience with the model that can read both 44 & 88 MB disks. The nice thing about them is that if I run into disk surface errors (that can't be fixed by re-allocating the Bad Blocks) I can simply pop in a new disk to use. What I don't like about the 44 MB is that it's really too small for me. I'd like a removable that was closer to a GB in size. – Dave
#132879From: Christopher TolmieFeb 20, 1994 8:38 AM
Lewis, SyQuest has just released a newer removable media drive that is 3.5" form factor and holds 270MB per cartridge. Sounds good, but some here have mentioned they'd heard that it works only for MACS. I don't know if this is so, I want to get one, but in this state a muffler on your car is a requirement so my spare $$$ went to a new exhaust system instead. 🙁 Here are several numbers I've compiled over the years of using a SyQuest drive. You might want to ask for George Wong in Tech Support and ask him if the new 270MB removable will work with the Amiga. I don't see why it wouldn't if it follows the SCSI standards. SyQuest's BBS 510-656-0473 SyQuest Main 510-226-4150 FAX 510-226-4100 510-490-7511 4161 4131 tech support 510-226-4127 George Wong 510-226-4134 Christopher
#132926From: Lewis J. AlbertsFeb 20, 1994 3:29 PM
Thanks, Once the "smoke"settles with my GVP I'll go one line with them.
#133363From: Paul ToalFeb 23, 1994 2:39 AM
So much money for something so unreliable is tough to justify. Be awfully careful unless you don't mind loosing what you save and have deep pockets. The price of media is phenominal.
#133404From: Christopher TolmieFeb 23, 1994 8:36 AM
What are you taking about? Have you info on the 270MB Syquest? The price of media from MACwarehouse for the 270 is less than for the 88 or 44MB carts.
#133362From: Paul ToalFeb 23, 1994 2:39 AM
Syquests are nothing but trouble, extremely high media failure. Don't use them for anything you want to keep. The only reason they are bought now isbecause someone doesn't know what a piece of junk it is or if they HAVE to use them because that's what your service bureau requires. Bernoulli 150s are bullet proof (you can throw them out a 3 story window) and they are a better value. 128 MO is the next consideration, cheaper media but slower. The 223+ MOs look very interesting, just being released this week. Buying more and bigger drives is still the fastest and cheapest though.
#133720From: Christopher TolmieFeb 25, 1994 9:38 AM
Paul, I've owned and used the 44MB SyQuests for around 4 years now, yes I've returned one drive to GVP and updated it again through SyQuest directly. Both the Amiga and MAC I have here both have the mechanisms, the ami two of 'em. I prolly have around 25 of the cartridges and none have failed on me. Oh one had trouble, couldn't format it on either the MAC or Amiga, the little green LED kept winking off and on at me. Finally one day I tried running it in the MAC and using HDTools on it and it low-leveled the cart. It works fine now. SyQuest tech support has always been extremely helpful when I call them. I was originally told to return the cart to them and they would fix it. The tech support guy told me that there wasn't any problem with the cart, that it wasn't "BAD". He was right, he didn't tell me what he intended on doing, I didn't ask either. Prolly thought the procedure was over my head or that hardware wouldn't handle it. <shrug> So I take offense to the statement you made that "Syquests are nothing but trouble, extremely high media failure…", if you have a need to hurl disk media out of 3 story windows, fine, just don't use mine. <grin> Besides I think the Bernoulli 150 is not "bullet-proof", send me one of yours something on it of high value, I'll take a poke at it with my .45 auto and return it to you. <grin>
#134684From: Paul ToalMar 3, 1994 4:58 AM
Ok, I take back bullet proof 🙂 What I meant was that relative failure rate of Syquest vs. Bernoulli. The only real fact is the numbers. For every one Bernoulli failure there are 1500 Syquest failures. You're right, I shouldn't have been vague. Most Syquest users will not see a problem, but Bernoulli cartridges CANNOT get read/write errors from a crash because it's different technology. So it is relative. My friend who gets the bad carts from work only sees 300 hundred bad ones on his desk and gets discouraged but his company has 2500 Syquests installed. Since the new machines have Bernoullis he hasn't seen a single bad disk. Thanks for keeping me honest 🙂 –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#134936From: Christopher TolmieMar 5, 1994 12:42 AM
Paul, I would think with a base of 2500 SyQuest drives installed it tells me there are lots of employees using them. 🙂 So that also makes me think a lot of these employees are not using them properly, shutting off the computer before the cart spools down or during writes, maybe ejecting the carts before heads get parked or while still spooling down. I'd look at the operation of the equipment before place the blame. If everyone working on them is innocent of abuse, then I'd be upset too. Perhaps it is also time for your friend's company to start begin a (re-)education program on the proper use and care of removable media devices. I'd also examine the firmware version of each unit. With such a large installed base I'd guess some are early versions. I've heard these have some problems. It would be best to upgrade those to the latest revision. I haven't had the pleasure of using a Bernoulli. They sound nice. If I didn't have a large investment carts I might have considered it but the Bernoulli was more $$$ when I bought my first SyQ. Christopher