CompuServe Thread

#RAM pricing

10 messages in this thread
#28697From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJan 3, 1989 11:02 PM
Ron, The word 'excuse' implies something made up, but not really true, or something that may be true…but isn't the real reason. RAM availability was extremely tight last year, and still isn't as good as it had been 2 years ago. Many manufacturers had supposedly long term contracts with chip manufacturers (not just distributors…manufacturers) and the manufacturers simply refused to honor those contracts. The US trade policy on chips (I forget what it was called) also put some limits on what could/couldn't be brought in. Most of the US chip manufacturers quit making RAM chips…only TI and Micron keep it up and they couldn't supply the demand. Not only that…new machines like the PS/2 models came out with huge appetites for RAM and IBM had the bucks to influence whether they got chips or not, plus their own plant that could supply them with some of what they needed. For CBM to have brought out the A2620 with no RAM would have been absurd in my opinion. The RAM shortage was, and still is real. It's easing, but not over yet. I do NOT know for a fact that RAM shortages was the reason for the delay…I do know that's what I've heard (along with the FCC certification) from 'normaly reliable sources'. Don
#28844From: RON TROYJan 4, 1989 9:01 PM
I suspect we'll never know the true reasons why the 2620 took so long to hit the streets. I tend to disagree over the ram delay issue, but that is quite subjective. Ram was absurdly tight, and to some degree still is. Ron
#28931From: John DraperJan 5, 1989 1:44 AM
Ron, How can youpossibly disagree with the 'ram delay issue'. It was well documented in the various trade magazines, newspapers, and most importantly of all, in the price lists of distributors, wholesalers, and retailers. It is not a 'subjective' matter at all. It was a shortage of ram, for many reasons, causing what ram was available to become very high priced indeed. (around here, 256K chips went from $4.00 to over $20.00 within just a few months) You make subjective judgements on what constitutes an excessive delay between first working prototype and retail sales for a product, treat those judgements as if they were immutable laws of the universe, then call factual, well documented conditions 'subjective'. I will never figure you out, of that I am certain. -larry
#28934From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJan 5, 1989 1:47 AM
Ron, Are you arguing with yourself? First you say you disagree with the RAM issue, then you agree it was tight … as you put it 'absurdly tight'… you can't have it both ways can you? Don
#29044From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIJan 5, 1989 10:19 PM
Don, I *believe* the "ram shortage" was more acute for the 256K chips, not the 1 meg chips. Lloyd
#29090From: John DraperJan 6, 1989 12:45 AM
Lloyd, They were both quite scarce. While the price didn't climb as high (porportionately) as the 256K chips, there really was quite a shortage. -larry
#29104From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJan 6, 1989 1:29 AM
Lloyd, More acute for the 256K chips…because manufacturers cut their 256K production to open up 1Meg production…..but the shortage still existed for 1 Meg chips. It still exists…that's why the price still hovers in the $30 range for a 1 Meg chip. Don
#29363From: Clint HastingsJan 7, 1989 11:08 PM
Where can one get 1 meg chips for $30? That's the best price I've seen.
#29375From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJan 7, 1989 11:22 PM
Clint, Advertised in the back of computer magazines. Don
#29200From: Dean BrownJan 6, 1989 8:04 PM
Lloyd, That's not what I've been seeing! Meggers were harder to get than 256K's were. (and THAT certainly wasn't easy!) The one meg chips are becomming more available NOW and 256K's are becoming less available. In fact, the current forcasts (if they mean anything 😉 claim the megger DRAM shortage should be over by June '89. But production of 256K chip is being reduced drasticly. -Dean