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Brian thanks again for the help. No Icon files don't make much sense
for a former mac user. But there must be a good reason for them.
Another thing that I've found that I don't understand is the
existence of "info" files. I'm using atalk3 to access CI$ and my
session record files all have another file created with them with a
.info extension. This is confusing, and with long file names hides
the extension out of menu selection windows. It has created a few
messes for me already. Paul
Paul,
The .info file extension is the ICON attached to the file. It is easy to
replace the icon with a different design by copying to new icon using the old
name. Without the .info file no icon will show up unless you choose from the
Window icon Show All Files.
Chris
Chris THanks, I think I would have built the icon into the file
header, but at least It makes sense, that explains why I have some
folders (oops, "drawers") with no icon. Now if only I could figure
out why there are folders named "c", "l", "s" etc. that seems to be
the ultimate in nonidentifiability to me.
I wonder what happens when I append a session log to an icon file.
(ive done it a few times…) Paul
If you mean put the icon in the file like the MAC, well it wouldn't be as easy
would it to alter, change, mutilate and spindle the icons to your liking now
would it? Then there are files that don't need icons, shouldn't be seen on the
WB and would just add clutter to the display. This way you got two ways to view
a file, via the Shell and DirUtild or by icons. There are lots of files I
haven't a desire to see on my WB. Plus this way if you need to save space you
can delete the icon.info files.
Chris
Chris You're correct, most of the time, one doesn't need to look at
most small system files. Actually, it's easy to change mac icons, I'm
not sure how it works but any graphic can be put in place of a mac
icon. I suspect the same is possible on the AMiga as well, but I
havent' gotten that far in the manual yet. I prefer to see all the
files on a given disk on my workbench. Let me figure out which ones
are important to me.
Paul,
Yeah, in Sys 7x it is easy to change the icon, using the Information
box, and the clipboard. To change the icon on the amiga one only has
to replace the filename.info file. BTW how large an icon can the MAC
handle? With the Amiga you can make them an ungodly size. In fact
some commercial stuff has generated these huge icons and I've had to
scale them down to a smaller size.
PS If you prefer to see all the files on a given disk does that
include the desktop file for the MAC? Those are usually hidden and
for good reason. Trash that file and your system must rebuild them.
Good thought about the desktop file, I never did figure out where that
is kept, there are probably others too, Though the user never needs
to edit them. Im not sure how big icons can get though I've never
seen one larger that the large standard size (about .75 x .75 inches)
I have seen photos shrunk down into Mac icons too. I must stop
thinking about the old days though and get on with learing this
machine. By the way, any ideas why the serial port on the 3000 is
limited to 31,200 when that doesn't seem to be a standard rate, (and
my modem can take date input at 57,600)?
Thanks Paul
Paul,
I'm not sure but I'd guess the desktop file is hidden on the root
directory of the disk. I've seen the file a couple times, there are
different versions of it. Something like desktopA, desktopB, etc.
Sometimes they'll show on an IBM disk I've written to on the mac and then
read in the Amiga. Come to think of it a directory (folder) shows up and
in it is the Desktop file(s) The different versions appear when you read a
disk on system 6.x and then load sys7.x. Each version generates its own
uniquely named desktop file. Each time I drop down to Sys 6 or go back to
Sys7, the SyQuest cart (or fixed disk if written to) I wrote to has its
desktop file updated the OS.
No idea, on the serial port limits. Although I'm sure someone else will
offer an explanation.
Christopher
Paul.
"Now if only I could figure out why there are folders named "c", "l",
"s" etc…"
Those are the system folders, err a… directories :-).
l: is for handlers and FileSystems
libs: contains libraries
c: holds the commands
s: Script files like startup-sequence and user-startup
DEVS: device drivers
These directory files don't need icons, are called upon by running
programs and many of them are not "launchable" like system files in
the MAC system directory, err a… folder. 🙂
A session log, as in a capture file using a term program? Well you
can attach any icon to the file, it is good to use one that is for
Projects, if not you can load it into the IconEDITor and change it.
Christopher Thanks, I will post that list in the front of my manual.
What I actually did was append a a session log to the log.info file
from my previous session. Mostly because the .info was hidden
outside the selection window so I had two files with apparently the
same name. If nothing else this is a learning experience. I just
wish it didn't take so much time and effort to learn. I want to use
my computer, not spend time trying to figure out that some
shortcutting programmer at commodore used the name "s" for a directry
full of script files rather than calling it "script_files"
Thanks again Paul
Paul,
.info
That is a leftover from the 1.x OS. I recall it had something to do with the
filesystem directory but I don't think it was ever implemented.
If you meant filename.info then that is an icon file for a data or program file
of the same name without the .info extension.
In my previous post to you I believe I didn't mention anything about the
.info file. You can type it out in a shell and you'll see a few names of the
files in that particular sub-directory.
Shell 1> TYPE .info
Chris
Chris, Thanks, I'll try that. What access program do you use to keep your CI$
costs down? Thanks Paul
Paul,
I've been using AutoPilot and before that, Whap!.
(Whap! no longer supported, thus not available)
Chris