#Editing and Editors
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Tim,
I've never go abroad for more than a few weeks in the past. Anyway, our US
company is located in LA and I have a few classmates living in San Jose, so
that I've visited San Fransisco twice. Yes, it's a charming city and many
movie activities there.
I've used CP/M, DOS, MS Windows, OS/2, Unix, Linux, and SGI before. When
playing some of the new APs on the SGI, I was amazied by the power (mainly the
speed to do rendering) and the very terrifying UI that they offer. <grin>
–Vince (writing on 1995 January 31)
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Vincent,
your use of the SGI sounds interesting. Do you use it mostly for pure
animation or effects animantion? I often look lustfully at those systems and
would love to try one out. Is the interface really that daunting?
Best,
CJH
>> your use of the SGI sounds interesting. Do you use it mostly for pure
animation or effects animantion? I often look lustfully at those systems and
would love to try one out. Is the interface really that daunting? <<
I don't really use them to do productive works so that I probably not the right
person to answer this question. My company is developing software tools and I
use these tools on various plateforms to know the general feeling, main UI,
usefulness, and their strength and weakness. Yes, most SGI software that I used
are for 3D animation and modeling.
They (at least for the software packages that I've played with) all offer a lot
of options/parameters in a few floating palettes or dialog boxes for you to
adjust almost everything. When you get to know each parameter's meaning, it is
very convinient. However, it needs more education time to get familar with.
What I means is that they don't guide you through the hierachy of menus and
dialog boxes. Anyway, they look quite professional with a lot of switches,
edit boxes, spin boxes, and buttons. May be this is exactly what they want and
which people like, professional lookings.
–Vince, Ulead Systems (writing on 1995 February 02)
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Vince:
>I've used CP/M, DOS, MS Windows, OS/2, Unix, Linux, and SGI before. When
playing some of the new APs on the SGI, I was amazied by the power (mainly the
speed to do rendering) and the very terrifying UI that they offer. <grin><
Funny–I've got this on-line friend who's programming in Norway for the Unix,
and she's also mentioned the popularity of SGI overseas (for me, at
least…<g>). Over here, OTOH, it seems to be mostly Mac, DOS or Amiga that
people use–while I've seen folks in forums like this mention SGI, they're
generally in the minority.
Wonder why that is…
Tim
>> I've got this on-line friend who's programming in Norway for the Unix, and
she's also mentioned the popularity of SGI overseas (for me, at least…<g>).
<<
In here, when talking about hollywood kind of effects for movie/CF/wedding
video, people generally refer to things to be done with SGI. For example, in a
single advertising company/studio that I know of they normally use 16 SGIs to
do the effects of a CF for their customers.
>> Over here, OTOH, it seems to be mostly Mac, DOS or Amiga that people use <<
I don't know, either. BTW, remember the problem to use your Intel SVR Pro card
to do 320×240 30fps non-dropping frame capturing? Here is an owner of it who
doesn't have any problem in doing that. You may want to ask him how to do
that. I believe the trick is in the AV hard drive and the Indeo 3.2
compression.
Forum: Multimedia+ Section: Digital Video
Subj : Smart Video Rec Pro
To : Judy Rothschadl, 73312,2646 1995 February 02 8:33:11 AM
From : Ron Wodaski, 75530,3711 #118184
I don't know why you and other folks are having trouble capturing at 30fps with
the ISVR Pro.
I'm getting 30fps on a 486/66 equipped with a Micropolis 2217AV hard drive. I
use the Indeo 3.2
codec; the RAW codec won't deliver 30fps to disk.
–Vince, Ulead Systems (writing on 1995 February 02)
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Vincent,
re: using SGI for high-end visual effects…
I think that using high-end workstations for visual effects processing is the
next "target" of the DTV world (my definition of DTV is doing broadcastable
graphics on your desk in your basement with a tool (read toy) that is
affordable by the average professional/hobbiest). With the advent of
non-linear editing and the processing power of todays machines, the DTV editor
can (and does) create awesome stuff, even if it does take him or her twice to
ten times as long to do it than with a tool like an SGI.
-John
John,
Exactly. One more note, these PC class tools (read toys) do have the
capability to do broadcasting quality video in your basement, they just take
longer time than SGI. However, when talking about speed, that SGI is still not
fast enough. Take my friend's studio as an example, when using all 16 SGIs for
a day, at most they can produce about 2000 frames (around 1 minute) animation
video.
As an evident, I have just being informed today that an Japanese firm is using
our software, MediaStudio, on a few Pentium machines equipted with good boards
to produce a TV series Yamaxxxx something (?) for their TV station. It also
will be broadcasted in US shortly since its US broadcasting right is sold to an
big US publisher. A few Australian studio are also using it to produce CF and
TV show at Australia successfully.
So, Let's wait for the price of these capture/M-JPEG boards to go down further
at this summer for a big bang of DTV to come.
–Vince, Ulead Systems (writing on 1995 February 03)
MCI Mail: EMS: ULead, 522-0621 MBX: VChen @ ultc1 (Vincent Chen)
VChen%Ulead@mcimail.com or VChen@ulead.com
Vince:
>In here, when talking about hollywood kind of effects for movie/CF/wedding
video, people generally refer to things to be done with SGI.<
I think I need to look into this more! I'd always thought Silicon Valley was a
small (and not much-patronized) company…
BTW, thanks for putting me onto Ron Wodaski!
Best,
Tim
Tim,
I should say these SGI guys represent less than 0.1% of the DTV users here.
Only big companies and big studio here can afford that kind of equipment and
manpower resource. Small companies in general will pay extra money for the
service or use other means like Toaster or Mac/PC. BTW, customers will pay
extra cost for each effect being used.
–Vince, Ulead Systems (writing on 1995 February 03)
MCI Mail: EMS: ULead, 522-0621 MBX: VChen @ ultc1 (Vincent Chen)
VChen%Ulead@mcimail.com or VChen@ulead.com