CompuServe Thread

Another PAR problem

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#152730From: Alexander MathysFeb 13, 1995 9:00 AM
Huh, there is another fundamental problem I'm not able to solve: When I try to import a tga file to the PAR drive, the video output is scrambled (not in sync somehow). Switching to fields instead of frame lets me at least look at the picture (with the restrictions described in the manual) but the picture is offset and shows colored stripes at the screen bottom. When I switch to "field2" I can see half of each "half image" right and left margin meeting in the middle of the screen and the two images are about 1/8 of the screen hight appart. When I export the PAL test color bars (from DPS BBS) to TGA files, they are broken up afterwards (I do export as _frame_) and their size is 752×480 (!?). The stills I like to import are 752×576 as described in the manual (I tried 752×568 as alternative, but without any success to solve my problem). I'm not able to re-import those "exported" tga's. Any hint for any overlooked switch is much appreciated! – Alex.
#152943From: Feb 13, 1995 7:35 PM
Alex: Hello!! Are you sure you are using the PAL version of PARDRV.EXE? Sounds like you may have the NTSC version loaded. It's a thought! Greg Pyros
#153033From: Alexander MathysFeb 14, 1995 2:17 AM
Greg: NTSC vs PAL… never thought of that. I'll talk to the DPS people today. The new 1.50 driver should handle both NTSC+PAL. Still my problems remain. I've seen the PAR in action at IMAGINA in Monte Carlo recently, four days later I had it in my office… it just needs to runs properly now and I'll be happy. I hope things are running well in Newport !? Thanks for your thought! Alex.
#153150From: Feb 14, 1995 4:36 PM
Alex: >> The new 1.50 driver should handle both NTSC+PAL. No, there is a different PARDRV for both NTSC and PAL, should be 1.6. Greg Pyros
#153267From: Alexander MathysFeb 15, 1995 3:03 AM
Greg: >> a different PARDRV for both NTSC and PAL, should be 1.6. I'll look for this, thanks. Anyway, I'm very impressed by the PAR – in working mode that is… I hope that you are at least a little bit envious of PAL people running a block size of 300+ <g>. – Alex.
#153332From: Feb 15, 1995 11:34 AM
Alex: >> I hope that you are at least a little bit envious of PAL people running a >> block size of 300+ <g> No, not in the least! Actually, I feel a bit sorry for them, because the PAR only uses a byte to hold that information, which means that anything larger than 255 is ignored, anyway! <RBG-Really Big Grin!> I wonder where they get these crazy ideas that they are so special over there, anyway! <RBG> Greg Pyros
#153334From: Alexander MathysFeb 15, 1995 11:46 AM
Greg: >> PAR only uses a byte to hold that information, which means that anything larger than 255 is ignored, anyway! … this is disappointing! but I guess I have to believe you… hopefully they'll give it another byte in the future! >> I wonder where they get these crazy ideas that they are so special over there, anyway! … talk about chocolate <g>! Special prices for special people also… I found the PAL-PAR board alone for more than $ 4500.00 offered by a reseller here !! On the other side: we already suffer from 25 FPS, so a little advantage wouldn't harm, he? Special greetings – – Alex.
#153363From: theo van bruggenFeb 15, 1995 2:29 PM
Alexander, It your own problem, Greg promised me to deliver one personal in Holland for this price (ok including 1 visit to the Red Light district) but still. And i lived 2 year in Zug and never found this district over there ?! Bye Theo
#153471From: Feb 15, 1995 11:30 PM
Theo: >> Greg promised me to deliver one personal in Holland for this price (ok >> including 1 visit to the Red Light district) And the offer is still on! (I don't know about the red light district, but the rest holds! :^) Greg Pyros
#153765From: Alexander MathysFeb 17, 1995 5:22 AM
Theo: >> i lived 2 year in Zug and never found this district over there ?! The 'district' in Zug is somehow hidden, I guess…. Anyway, what did you do in Zug for 2 years? – Alex.
#154218From: theo van bruggenFeb 19, 1995 6:53 AM
Alexander, Tax in Holland 72%, in Zug 5,75 %. Reasons enough i think. And we were working together with EDV-Zurich on a project to put MAI's Basic Operatin System over to IBM, that's why. But you really are living in a beautifull country…. and when the flood is coming i envy you, sitting on top of the hills, we are 5 meters below sealevel you 800 meters above. But you cann't have it all i think Bye and nice to have the Swiss on this board Theo
#153470From: Feb 15, 1995 11:30 PM
Alex: >> talk about chocolate <g> Ah, yes, I remember! :^) >> On the other side: we already suffer from 25 FPS… Yes, but you have higher resolution to make up for it. Since human eye can only distinguish around 48 updates per second, and PAL with fields is 50, you have the advantage of higher resolution without the disadvantages! And a cleaner signal to boot! (NTSC = Never Twice the Same Color!) Greg Pyros
#153766From: Alexander MathysFeb 17, 1995 5:22 AM
>> you have the advantage of higher resolution without the disadvantages! And a cleaner signal to boot! (NTSC = Never Twice the Same Color!) PAL = Pyros' Actual Longing ?!? <bg>. – Alex.
#153362From: theo van bruggenFeb 15, 1995 2:24 PM
Greg, Maybe because we discoverd America <g> Bye Theo
#153037From: Alexander MathysFeb 14, 1995 2:54 AM
Greg: You definitely saved my day! (I owe you another piece of swiss chocolate I guess…!!) It _was_ the NTSC pardrv.exe (the new version 1.50 caused the problem then…. the old version I got with the PAR wouldn't run first). Thanks again! – Alex.