#MWB2 Registration
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Hi Gary,
I know the Australian rego site for MagicWB 2.0 is still up & running, sorry I
can't help you with US.
-Andre
Regards,
Andre Lackmann On AutoPilot and still outta control
Hi Andre,
Would you tell me the filename of MagicWB2.0 in CompuServe or where to get a
demo version of it ? Would MagicWB register from Compuserve software register
Forum ? How much of the MagicWB 2.0 version 's register fee (US $ or AUD$) ?
Thank you for your time.
Roger.
From Hong Kong.
Hi Roger,
The demo of MagicWB v2.0 is available in this forum!
[76703,2006] Lib:17 MWB2.LHA/Bin Bytes: 269025, Count: 286, 22-Jul-94
Title : MagicWB v2.0 demo, The definitive WB-Enhancer
Keywords: MAGICWB WB WORKBENCH ENHANCER HUTTENLOHER SASG
MagicWB v2.0 Demo. The definitive WB-Enhancer no Amiga can do
without. MagicWB is a full replacement for the graphic user interface of
the Workbench. MagicWB 2.0 is completely restructured on a new
color-allocation scheme which more than doubles the speed of the WB and
reduces chip consumption to only a third compared with all previous
versions. More icons, dock-brushes, a dozen of new patterns, fonts and
AGA support. Sharware by Martin Huttenloher
I am not sure, but I think it is generally US$20. It is not currently available
via SWREG on CompuServe.
-Andre
Andre;
The "demo" of Magic Workbench 2.0 is more of a sampler than a true demo. I
downloaded it and there are only sample screens, no program.
Hank
Hi Hank,
Thats pretty much as good as your going to get for a taste of MagicWB 2.0. The
author decided to release it as such, due to large amounts of people using the
previous demo package asis, and not bothering registering for the extra nice
bits 8).
If you like the look of it, register, it really is such a small amount that it
will not hurt if you decide down the track that you hate it!
-Andre
If you are registering thru the US Reg site you may want to wait and see
if they are still in operation before sending off your cash. I sent in the
registration fee on MWB2 nearly 3 months ago and have yet to see a thing
from them, their BBS lines are disconnected and they have not responded to
a follow up letter.
Gary Cooper ( the live one )
From Albuquerque, New Mexico
For what it is worth-
I sent an e-mail to the author of MUI (same US registration site as MWB I
believe). Stephen Stuntz sent a terse answer stating yes, it is still in
operation. The BBS phone number associated with Robert Blayzor is
disconnected, however.
Ken
>>>The BBS phone number associated with Robert Blayzor is disconnected,
however.<<<
Okay, so am I the only one confused here?
The USA registration site given in the MWB2.0 demo is Robert Blayzor, Liquid
Sky Datacomm BBS: (518) 725-9701/2 v.32bis/v.FC.
Doesn't that leave us without a registration site in the USA?
What does Stephen Stuntz have to do with MWB? Can we register it through him?
There are a few of us out here who would like to register MWB but don't want to
just arbitrarily send our $$$ off into uncertain oblivion (sorry, Gary).
;^)
//daniel on
\X/ AutoPilot 1.77
Hey, sometimes you just gotta roll the dice and take your chances –
there were a lot of satisfied folks here discussing MWB2 when I placed my
order – worst case I'm out $20 , I will survive. Just wanted to make sure
others knew what was happening in regards to the USA reg site.
Gary Cooper ( the live one )
From Albuquerque, New Mexico
Daniel,
=>What does Stephen Stuntz have to do with MWB?
Stuntz is the author of Magic WB. Blayzor is the SASG US rep for easy paying
of registration fees for Magic WB as well as MUI and a few other programs.
Trent
'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori'
The author of MagicWB is Martin Huttenloher. Stuntz is the author of Magic
User Interface.
._ _ _ INTERNET: mshea@math.arizona.edu
| | |ichael _>hea COMPUSERVE: 76665,3360
OK. That did it! No more responses <g>.
Trent
'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori'
That's strange. In the demo of MWB 2.0 that's in the library here, Martin
Huttenloher is listed as the author. Is this a pseudonym?
As for Blayzor, isn't his the registration site with disconnected BBS lines?
And if such is the case, then I think I'm back at square one (or zero). I
think I'll try to call Liquid Sky tonight again.
//daniel on
\X/ AutoPilot 1.77
<sigh> Yes Daniel. You are correct. Huttenloher is the author of Magic WB.
Stuntz is the author of MUI.
Trent
'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori'
SASG is the "company" that is responsible for a group of programs, including
MWB by Martin Hutenloher and MUI by Stefan Stuntz.
They both have the same USA registration site, Robert Blayzor, PO Box 807,
Johnstown, NY 12095-0807.
You asked about MWB; I used the above address, sent my $20 and received the
disk a couple weeks later (about 8 months ago). I am about to register MUI;
because of the recent questions on this board, I decided to inquire directly
with the pertinent author, in this case, Stuntz.
Since they both use the same registration site, I assumed both programs are
supported this way. Perhaps not. Despite the BBS being down, snail mail
probably still works.
If it's any consolation, sending $20 through the mail was uncomfortable for me
too, but it worked. You can send a check, but then the shoe's on the other
foot and you have to wait an extra 2 weeks for your check to clear before they
send the disk. Can't win.
I liked even less sending my credit card number over the net. So far no
spurios charges.
Best of luck.
Ken
PS. I really like MWB
Thanks for all the info. I was hoping that someone here would miraculously pop
up with a new USA registration site since the numbers to Liquid Sky yield a
recorded message only, indicating that the numbers are no longer in service.
So, perhaps the snail mail is still valid, but it's not just a case of BBS
crash/maintenance.
Maybe you're right, sending $20 cash directly to the author may be the way to
go.
Do you (or anyone else here) have an internet address for Martin Huttenloher?
I am not sure if the <xen@magic.in-ulm.de> is such since it's not the internet
format I am accustomed to seeing.
//daniel
\X/ AP 1.77
Hi.
Ja, that's the right e-mail address (but don't use the < and >, then it looks
more conventional and it works).
However, when I asked some installation questions _before_ I registered, he was
unwilling to offer _any_ help (from his standpoint, you can understand why, but
I was kind of miffed). I had an early full working version and must have
caught him just after he had switched to the current "snapshot" non-functional
demo. He's was helpful after registration But it took several weeks to get
the disk after snail-mailing my $20. It felt like: upgrade fee through
Blayzor. Return was much quicker then. Then. Not sure now.
Good luck.
Ken
Andre;
I guess I can understand the author's feelings about this, but I, for one,
like to convince myself that a program works on my system and is all that
it is "advertised" to be. Of course, you are right, inasmuch as I will not
go broke sending in the reg fee to try the full program out. I also have
concerns about some recent messages in the forum from people who have sent
in their registrations and have not gotten their programs after two or
three months.
My problem is that around 9 months ago, I downloaded one of the earlier
demos, when I was running WB 2.1. I have a PicassoII and an Idek 17"
monitor. I tried installing the demo a couple of times and it severely
crashed my system-had to erase every file to get up and running again. I
believe it was Steve Ahlstrom (maybe it was Jim Drew, I'm not sure- I only
remember that it was one of our Amiga mavens) who, at the time, said
something to the effect that the program code had some "illegalities" in
it and that it was likely to cause problems. I stored the program and
never again tried to reinstall it. I am not sure from reading the docs as
to whether or not it can be used in non-interlaced mode. My impression is
that I can't use it on my PicassoII 800×600 WorkBench screen which is
flicker-free and which I have grown to love.
If I could be convinced that the above objections are groundless, then I
would go ahead and register for MWB 2.0.
Thanks for your input.
Hank
Hank,
MWB is not a "program" as such (and therefore it most definitely can't crash
your system). It is rather a collection of artwork (if that's what you want to
call it) in the form of various icons and background patterns, all based on the
(in)famous MagicWB 8colour palette.
A possible reason for your crashes might have been that in the old releases
MWB's icons were simply copied over your original ones, thus destroying all
information you might have had in them as regards tooltypes and stack size. If
the stack size is too small, your program is bound to crash or hang or whatever
sooner or later.
Later releases have changed in that the original icon's properties are kept in
the new icons so there shouldn't be those problems anymore.
Another source of problems used to be the enclosed NickPrefs utility which
wouldn't work properly on 3.x systems (or so I have read). OTOH, if you have WB
3.x you wouldn't need them anyway…
So, the bottom line is: if you really like MWB, register (if in doubt about the
US reg site, directly with SASG/author in Germany).
Nonetheless, I'd always recommend you to download the NewIcons system
(NEWICN.LHA, about 340K). If nothing else, the artist's introduction is worth
it alone (he hates MWB's design and he can prove why 'cos he's a professional
graphic artist/designer) ;^)
There's also a file with about 100 backgrounds, some of which are just AMAZING!
BTW, the NewIcon system doesn't force you to use a special palette like MWB
does, everything automatically adjusts to look as close to the original
colouring as palette restrictions allow (no restrictions with 256 colours)
using WB 3.x's colour arbitration technology. It's simply amazing! Only
drawbacks are: it's a bit slower than MWB, and there aren't (?) as many icons
available. Plusses are: it's much more intelligent (filetype recognition), more
colourful (icons can have up to 256(!) colours, and the docs are much more fun
to read… ;^)
Well, enough of me rambling about… See for yourself!
Cheers,
// Christian "ELP" Busse
\X/ near Frankfurt, Germany
Christian;
Thanks for the info.
Hank
Hi Hank,
I guess the only way to put aside your fears would be to mail the author
direct, as he would be able to answer your technical questions (which I cannot
unfortunately).
If you need his address, I can email it to you.
-Andre
< I guess the only way to put aside your fears would be to mail the author
direct, as he would be able to answer your technical questions (which I
cannot unfortunately).
If you need his address, I can email it to you.>
Thanks Andre. I would appreciate it.
Hank