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#Frame Grabber?

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#2906From: Sholom Friedlander[BPV]Feb 14, 1995 11:25 AM
Has anybody heard of a product called Frame Grabber? It's supposed to be able to freeze a frame from a videotape and then be able to save it in a graphic format in windows. Is this the best product for such an application or are there better products out there? Thanks! -Sholom-
#2908From: Ken EdwardsFeb 14, 1995 2:26 PM
Hi Sholom, >> Frame Grabber << is a function of many cards. There are over 20 cards by now that do frame grabing. To find the best you need to have a few things clear first. Do you want just still images? Do you want only running footage? What is the max size of the screen that you need? If you want running footage, how long might the longest peice be and how much disk space do you have for it. And what price range are you looking at. Is it for a lap top? What bus is the PC? Is it a PC or an Apple? ken
#2932From: Sholom Friedlander[BPV]Feb 14, 1995 11:01 PM
>> Do you want just still images? << Yes, still images. >> And what price range are you looking at. << about 2-300, possible? >> What bus is the PC? << VESA >> Is it a PC or an Apple? << PC BTW, have you heard of a product which will do this attached to a paralell port? Thanks! -Sholom-
#2943From: Ken EdwardsFeb 15, 1995 8:47 AM
Hi Sholom, There are two or more Frame Grabbers that hook up to the parallel port on a PC. PC Zone sells a box called the Presenter Video Capture 2 for $258.98 there number is 1-800-258-2088 ken
#2976From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPFeb 16, 1995 11:06 AM
Sholom, There is a new Frame Grabber from Play, Inc. called the "Snappy" that plugs into the parallel port of an IBM Compatible and does a pretty good job digitizing video for about $200. -John
#2919From: Timothy LiebeFeb 14, 1995 5:59 PM
Sholom: >Has anybody heard of a product called Frame Grabber? It's supposed to be able to freeze a frame from a videotape and then be able to save it in a graphic format in windows.< I think "Frame Grabber" used to be card that simply captured still video frames and digitized them to your computer. Since then, a number of video digitizing cards have come out, most of which can grab either still frames or 15 fps video. I use the Intel Smart Video Recorder Pro for both still frame grabs and for motion video capture. It works well w/Windows and gives you 640 x 480 pixel images at 72 fps, which can be manipulated in PhotoShop (or another photo editing program) to whatever size and resolution you need. There are other cards out there that are either as good or better, or less expensive, depending on your needs. Hope this helps, Tim Liebe Contributing Editor, VIDEO Magazine
#2928From: Robb OlsenFeb 14, 1995 10:49 PM
Timothy, So, what are our PCI capture options? In other threads here, I have heard about the AITech, Matrox Marvel II, an future boards from Miro and Thundervision. Any others that you know of? Any word on the quality of these vs. best ISA options? You also mention that there are better options than the Intel SVRP. Which are better in your experience? Regards, Robb.
#2993From: Timothy LiebeFeb 17, 1995 9:36 AM
Robb: >So, what are our PCI capture options? < That, I wouldn't know about–sorry. Others on this thread, tho, certainly do. >You also mention that there are better options than the Intel SVRP. Which are better in your experience? < In my experience, again I don't know for sure–but like you, I've heard good things about Thundervision, Miro, Matrox, etc. Sorry, but my computer at home only has the Smart Video Pro card, and I'm not yet blessed with the chance to review the real *fun* cards… Tim
#2931From: Sholom Friedlander[BPV]Feb 14, 1995 11:01 PM
>> I use the Intel Smart Video Recorder Pro for both still frame grabs and for motion video capture. It works well w/Windows and gives you 640 x 480 pixel images at 72 fps << Isn't that very good? I mean, regular video is 30 fps, no? Well, basiclly I need to be ablee to capture a frame from a VHS tape and print it out on an Epson Color Stylus. BTW, have you heard of a product which will do this attached to a paralell port? Thanks! -Sholom-
#2994From: Timothy LiebeFeb 17, 1995 9:48 AM
Sholom: >> I use the Intel Smart Video Recorder Pro for both still frame grabs and for motion video capture. It works well w/Windows and gives you 640 x 480 pixel images at 72 fps << >Isn't that very good? I mean, regular video is 30 fps, no?< Well, if it captured 640 x 480 pixels at 30 fps (60 fields/second), it *would* be–but in 640×480 mode, it only captures @ *2* fps! So that's fine for frame grabbing, but not so great for motion video… >Well, basiclly I need to be ablee to capture a frame from a VHS tape and print it out on an Epson Color Stylus.< For that, the Smart Video Recorder's fine! It'll give you reasonably good color accuracy and capturing single frames is pretty easy–you just click on the single frame icon in its window and it captures it, then go into your file menu and save single frame by whatever name you want. It only captures files in .DIB bitmap format, though–which PhotoShop 2.5 doesn't seem to recognize–but you can always rename it as a .BMP file (BTW, does *anyone* know why the SVRP doesn't offer .BMP as an alternate still format to .DIB?–I mean, they're pretty much the same…). >BTW, have you heard of a product which will do this attached to a paralell port?< Not offhand–I've heard of external genlocks (for outputting computer images to videotape), though, so I'm sure *somebody's* got a product that goes the other way. I just don't know names or how it works, for now. Best, Tim
#2929From: Robb OlsenFeb 14, 1995 10:54 PM
Sholom, I use an Apple QuickTake digital camera for Windows to get medium quality full color images onto my PC's with minimum hassle, i.e., connects via serial cable, NO "frame grabber" card required. Cost was under $700 US. The images are good, but the minimum focal length is 4 feet (1.3 meters) which is a limitation for some work. I have been working with some 3rd party lenses for more close up work. For higher end work, we are looking at Kodak and Fuji digitals. Perhaps the QuickTake would meet your needs if you do not need to work from video tape. Food for thought. Regards, Robb.
#2933From: Sholom Friedlander[BPV]Feb 14, 1995 11:03 PM
>> Perhaps the QuickTake would meet your needs if you do not need to work from video tape. Food for thought. Regards, Robb. << Thanks, but it needs to be from video tape. -Sholom-