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#Chicago Ami Dealer

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#93303From: Mike Roth/LatticeMar 8, 1990 5:11 PM
Aaron, I don't know exactly where you are in the Chicago area, but I always recommend MicroTech Solutions in Aurora. I've found them to be a great store for buying both hardware and software. They also run their own BBS, but I don't currently know the number. Of course this won't help you too much, because I don't think they give Amigas away free. 🙂 — Mike Roth
#93370From: Aaron MinnerMar 8, 1990 10:11 PM
Mike: Shucks. Thanks for the information, anyway. I'll look them up – I don't even know where Aurora is, though I'm sure I can find it. (I just moved here, myself.) Aaron
#93405From: Mike Roth/LatticeMar 9, 1990 1:08 AM
Aaron, Aurora is out in the western suburbs, off of I-88. I no longer buy mail order because I feel MicroTech is worth supporting. They deserve any business I can give them. I can't say that about too many places in this area (or anywhere for that matter). — Mike Roth
#93967From: Aaron MinnerMar 12, 1990 10:53 PM
Mike: Yeah, I looked for it on the map; looks a little far away. I found another one in Mundlein; I don't know how good a dealer they are since I've only talked with them once. They seemed like a small shop – sort of backwoods. We'll see what happens. Aaron
#94021From: Michael McCormickMar 13, 1990 11:46 AM
Aaron, The dealer in Mundlein is also MUCH closer to me….but! I find their prices too HIGH and the service leaving a little bit to be desired. Example of price difference on a recently purchased GVP HardCard Controller was approx $60.00. MicroTech was the big winner on this one. MikeM:) Now thats my personal opionion. The place went downhill when they lost one salesman who new what he was talking about.
#94305From: Aaron MinnerMar 15, 1990 11:17 PM
Well, Mike, thanks for the caveat. Maybe we could whip them into shape or something. Who couldn't use another GOOD Amiga dealer? Aaron
#94895From: Christopher R. HertelMar 21, 1990 11:40 AM
Just a note about the dealer in Mundelein. I know some folks who think that they are great, but I had some very bad luck with them. I am told that the person I dealt with is no longer there. My wife purchased my Amiga for me two Christmases ago. Chris -)—–
#95272From: Aaron MinnerMar 24, 1990 2:19 AM
Chris: You may be interested in knowing that I took a copy of that message from Mike in Waukegon (sp?) to that dealer in Mundlein and all she could say was, "This pisses me off." I don't know, but I'd say that says it all about that place. If a dealer can't read an honest opinion and do something constructive about it, they're headed for hard times. I mean, geez, the CUSTOMERS, who I thought controlled the market, are saying, "your act stinks," and she's basically saying, "well, I don't want to hear this." "Well, it wasn't nice doing business with you and you can't count on my return." As an aside, I saw a listing of ads the other day in a newspaper for data entry people (sit and type – no brains required, is what they should say), specifying a year or two of experience on various machines as requirements. Further on down the page, though, there was an ad for a computer salesperson: "Basic skills preferred." Gee, maybe that's why the service stinks. You get people in there who don't know a floppy disk from a coffee filter saying, "you really do need this, and what's money for if not to spend?" Kind of funny, actually, but it's we who pay the price. That 'taint funny, and I'm not laughing. Aaron
#95432From: Michael McCormickMar 25, 1990 8:31 AM
Aaron, Guess I had better not show my face there anymore! 🙂 Not that I have much to do with them now. Then again I was just expressing my personnel opionion. Maybe a little local competition might help improve things. I really prefer getting my software and hardware information/ recommendations from fellow forum members. MikeM:)
#95490From: Christopher R. HertelMar 25, 1990 4:52 PM
This brings up a point that is of particular interest to Amiga users. Overall, Amiga users are pretty smart. If you know more than a little bit about computers, you are going to look around and make your own opinion before you go out and buy something. That's the group that forms the basis of the Amiga user community. We are folks who took a look and said "hey, here's a machine that will do more than what I was looking for and costs half the price." We are also not afraid to take a chance on a lesser-known product because we know enough to keep it going on our own, despite a lack of available support. The average computer buyer is not so lucky. He/She must have some sort of support (hardware, software, and emotional) before going out to purchase equipment. Spending the extra $ on a Mac or name brand PC is like buying an insurance policy. There are enough people around who DO know how to handle those machines and enough people who already own them that the buyer can feel safe. One side effect, however: most people I know who purchased their equipment that way become very defensive if you suggest that there might be a better way. Finally, this situation causes its own problems for Amiga owners. Many of us who are compu-smart enough to buy an Amiga are also willing to take the chance of purchasing it from mail-order shop. This reduces the profit for the local Amiga vendors, who wind up selling less. This means that they cannot affort to pay the support staff that they should have for the Amiga, which reduces the level of support that they can offer, which makes it more likely that we will buy our equipment from a mail-order shop. Bad circle. Anyway, that's part of the problem (IMHO) with the Chicago area dealers. We can't support them because they can't support us because we can't support them… You get the idea. Chris -)—–
#95563From: Mike Roth/LatticeMar 26, 1990 12:15 AM
Chris, Well, I certainly feel that MicroTech in Aurora deserves my support. They really are a very good dealer. I also don't believe in buying most hardware through mail order. The first time you receive a piece of hardware that doesn't work, you fine that the hassle isn't worth the monetary savings. — Mike Roth
#95648From: Christopher R. HertelMar 26, 1990 2:54 PM
Sounds reasonable. Everyone has their own needs and values and we all try to find what works best for us. I just wish I could find a really good dealer in my area. Close enough to get to by train or bicycle (get my excersize this summer). Anyway. I just got the lattice newsletter/catalog here at the office. I'm interested in that mug, so why don't you tell me something about PANEL? Chris -)—–
#95649From: Mike Roth/LatticeMar 26, 1990 3:24 PM
Chris, I had to look at the newsletter to see what you were referring to. 🙂 I believe that PANEL is a product (library?) to help you build data screens for getting and displaying data. I'm not too familiar with it, but I'm sure if you call our sales number they'll be glad to tell you more. — Mike Roth
#95529From: Aaron MinnerMar 25, 1990 8:24 PM
Mike: I'd like to be able to say I took your name out before giving it to her, but it didn't occur to me until afterwards that it might cause problems for you. Ooops, of a major sort. Well, looking at things positively, if they turn their act around, you can always say you fired the first shot. A little weak, I realize, but what's done is done and we can only try make things better after the fact. Let's wait and see what happens. I have to go back there soon anyway so I'll tell you if I notice a difference. You never know – they may suprise us all. Aaron
#93457From: Michael McCormickMar 9, 1990 3:47 PM
Aaron. I have purchased a few hardware items from MicoTech also. They seem to have the best prices around for hardware..(at least compared to my local dealer). My last order was for a GVP Harddrive Controler. Ordered by phone and it was at my door step in two days.
#93968From: Aaron MinnerMar 12, 1990 10:55 PM
Mike: Gee, if I get another goo review of these guys, I may just have to check them out, even if they are a little faw away. (Spoda be "good," not "goo.") Aaron
#93538From: Leslie ClarkMar 10, 1990 1:53 AM
Aaron In case you live in Chicago instead of one of the suburbs, you might want to try MicroEd. They are located at 444 N. Orleans in suite 250. I just found them myself, so I don't want to sound like I'm recommending them, but they do seem to know what they are talking about and they only sell Amigas. Leslie
#93969From: Aaron MinnerMar 12, 1990 10:57 PM
Les: (I have a niece by that name, so I hope you don't find me too informal.) I'd rather not go into the city if I don't have to. I'm somewhat of a country boy – rural New York misplanted in this faraway place. The city looks nice – from way out here in the 'burbs. Aaron
#94022From: Michael McCormickMar 13, 1990 11:46 AM
Aaron, Should of asked this in the last message I left you. Where are you living. I reside in Waukegan. MikeM:)
#94306From: Aaron MinnerMar 15, 1990 11:19 PM
Mike" Should've answered this in my last letter. Schaumburg. I just moved out from New York, which has a lot going for it, but unfortunately, not in the employment area. Aaron
#94147From: Leslie ClarkMar 14, 1990 6:26 PM
Aaron No problem about calling me Les. I go by either name, depending on the situation; "Les" seems to cause fewer gender confusions, especially here in Chicago. (Back in Texas, the name "Leslie" seemed to be used equally as a male or female name. Here in Chicagoland, it seems to be about a 90 – 10 split in favor of the ladies.) If you find a good dealer in the 'burbs, let me know. I live in Chicago, but work in Schaumburg, so I'm used to doing a little driving. Les
#94315From: Aaron MinnerMar 15, 1990 11:26 PM
Les: That's amazing. I work in Schaumburg too. Actually, I live here and work here. I told Mike in another letter, but I just moved out from New York. I haven't found too many dealers yet, but I'll surely let you know when I find one I consider good. By the way, you wouldn't happen to work for Motorola, would you? Aaron
#94391From: Leslie ClarkMar 16, 1990 8:29 PM
Aaron: Nope, I work for Sears Technology Services over on Martingale. Good luck on finding a dealer. Les
#94896From: Christopher R. HertelMar 21, 1990 11:46 AM
Here are the local dealers I know of… 1) you can get an A500 at Software etc. Many B. Dalton Bookstores have Software etc. shops in them. 2) Ring Software in Geneva, IL 3) Micro-ED, downtown Chicago. 4) DOS computers in Niles (not recommended) 5) Digital World. Two locations – Aurora and somewhere else (maybe Schaumburg?) 6) Software Plus – several locations. Also, there is a discount place located somewhere in the far north-northwest area that carries Amigas. Compu-something. Chris
#94916From: Mike Roth/LatticeMar 21, 1990 6:14 PM
I thought Digital World was in Naperville. Maybe that's the other one. In any case, I would not recommend Digital World since they seem to be rather overpriced. Of course I haven't gone there in quite a while. The best Amiga dealer I've found in the area is MicroTech Solutions in Aurora. They really stock a lot of products and are very knowledgable about the Amiga (They cater to Commodore equipment). — Mike Roth
#94918From: Keith W. JohnsonMar 21, 1990 6:24 PM
Chris, Hope you don't mind me jumping in, I was monitoring your messages since I'm from the ChicagoLand area. I saw you mention DigitalWorld and thought I'd give you the specifics (I just bought a 2000HD system from them about a month ago. They're very helpful and knowledgeable.) The proprietor's name is Sam Gunda and he has two stores: 711 Army Trail Road 1163 E. Ogden Ave. Addison, IL 60101 Naperville, IL 60540 (312) 543-9000 (312) 717-5300 Keith
#94988From: Bill ForcadeMar 21, 1990 11:30 PM
Chris: I have had pretty good luck over the last few years with DOS computer center in Niles, but always at list price or thereabouts, mind if I ask why you listed it as "(not recommended)" ?? Also, you listed a discount place (Compu-something) in the far north-northwest area. If you think of the name I REALLY would like to know about a Chicago area Amiga DISCOUNT dealer. Thanks.
#95202From: Christopher R. HertelMar 23, 1990 7:56 PM
Several years ago I had some problems with the one guy there who knew anything about the Amiga. I am a programmer, and (though I like the windows-iconsmice-pulldown menus type system [wimps]), I feel better if I can get my hands deeper into the machine. I can also type, thankyouverymuch. I am mostly a Pascal/Modula-2 programmer, but my wife is a C type. When she saw the mouse she said "where's the cat!?". So, anyway, we were trying to get the salesman to tell us about the CLI and the resident libraries and such. We wanted to know about the heart of the machine, not the skin. The saleman kept insisting that we didn't want to know all that stuff. He said that we could do everything we wanted with the mouse and the icons and such. We kept telling him that the mouse was fine, but we really wanted to know more about the system. Now, I have to explain about me and my wife. One day we went into a Computerland to buy a box of disks. She needed them for a class and it was the only place around. Before we went into the store, she told me that she wanted me to behave (she knows what I am like in a PC/Mac environment — I get a bit nasty with the salesfolk). Well, we went into this place and the salesman started telling us about the Compaqs and the IBMs and the Macs and such, and about how they would never sell anything else, and that nothing was better. Well, I kept my cool. Normally I would start asking the technical questions and get the salefolk real nervous and get them to contradict themselves and make total fools out of them, but I was good — I behaved. My wife blew up, however! So anyway, back to this Amiga store. We really wanted to know more about the machine, and we were getting the feeling that the salesman didn't know all that much about the heart of it. So, that's why "not recommended", which is not to say "recommended against". -)—– Chris
#95269From: Aaron MinnerMar 24, 1990 2:06 AM
Les: Sears Technology Services?? Haven't heard of it. What goes on there? I'm curious. (Actually, I'm Aaron, but occasionally I step out of character.) Aaron