KCS2-V.3.01 (cont.)
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I've been using KCS level II 3.0 for many weeks now. I also just purchased
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Copyist Pro. The problem is Copyist Pro is not MPE compat. Dr. T's says
I'll have to upgrade to DTP version. The nice thing about having this
combo with MPE will be to see sequences in sheet music form. With a minal
amount of fuss I can send my sequences to Copyist and see it desplayed on
screen in standard musical notation. Only problem is Copyist is not meant
for sequence editing. I can at least now visualize mistakes and compare
tracks and go back and edit them.
Another great thing about Level II that no other sequencer seems to come
close to is the PVG and Master Editor. This allows me to create edit
functions that I just couldn't do with any other seqeuncer. Being that I'm
the avant-garde type I need those features. To me, More important than
display is, power! Nothing equalls KCS II in that area!
Craig,
In reference to DR. T's KCS Level II-V.3.01, you state that power
is more important to you than display. I tend to agree, but what is wrong
with having both power and display? For that you need Bars&Pipes from Blue
Ribbon Bakery. You also suggest that nothing equals Level II in terms of
power. Have you tried all the other available sequencers for the Amiga? If
not, how do you know that Level II is the most powerful? The Master Editor
is powerful, but somewhat tedious. I found the PVG to be the single most
user-unfriendly portion of a program I ever recall using. All in all, KCS
is not implemented in a musical fashion. Dom Fontana
Just throwing my two cents in here…
> how do you know that Level II is the most powerful?
Well, I *have used all existing Amiga sequencers(except for Master Tracks)
and I own both Level II and B&P, and believe me, Level II *is* the most
powerful MIDI tool now on the Amiga.
Having said that, I strongly agree that there are much easier to use and
more 'musical' sequencers out there. Bars & Pipes does have many features,
but many of those features are aimed towards not-so-great keyboard players
to add a little AI to the sequencer. Not that it can't be used to produce
powerful compostition tools, but you are limited by the tools, which you
can't get for free. Level II also is limited by it's tools, but they are
much more open ended, thus more powerful and much more difficult to get
into.
I just think that for undecided buyers out there it's important to
understand that there are strengths and weaknesses for every product. B&P
and HMSL are the only object-oriented Amiga music programs out there, but
Level II is the most powerful sequencer/editor. If you are an average
user, admittedly, you'd probably want to go for Music-X or B&P, the more
'techie' musicians will likely opt for Level II or HMSL. IMHO!
J.C.
John,
Concerning your comments about Bars&Pipes and Level II, I
respectfully disagree. First, how do you know that level II is the most
powerful sequencer if you never used MasterTracks Pro? Is it from what
you've read or heard? Have you used MTPro, but never purchased it? The
point is that the fragment of my message that you chose to comment on was
stated because the person I was responding to never evaluated all the
sequencers of which we were discussing. Before B&P, I thought MTPro was the
best. You now mention that the one sequencer that you're not familiar with
is one that I consider light years better than Level II. In effect, you are
totally discounting MTPro, and making a recommendation of Level II over a
product that you haven't used.
I don't claim to know about every Amiga sequencer. I just give my
opinion on the four that I own. Namely, B&P, MTPro, Music-X, and Level II.
As a matter of fact, I paid $65.00 for a copy-protected update of Level II,
just so I would know of whence I speak.
Of course, I agree that any software, be it music or otherwise, is
a matter of preference, and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
And of course, I don't consider my opinion any more valid than yours.
That's all this is, is a matter of opinion. However, I feel that if I give
the rationale behind my opinion, then maybe those who agree with my
rationale will be more motivated to accept my opinions. I have stated many
times that Level II is the most powerful sequencer of the four that I own.
But the interface is so horrible that it's not worth the effort. You made
it sound like I stated that level II wasn't the most powerful. Even if it
currently is the most powerful, it's not the most useful.
I also disagree that B&P is geared towards non-keyboard players.
(By the way, a number of tools are free with B&P). I also disagree that
casual users will like B&P and Music-X and technies will like Level II. I
am a technically oriented user with a multi-track recording studio, and I
don't like Level II. You're trying to carve a niche for Level II that
doesn't exist. Best regards…………..Dom Fontana