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#Flaky A1000

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#94062From: Michael RiehleMar 13, 1990 8:07 PM
I've had an amusing little glitch occur lately. It's intermittent, but irritatingly frequent. When the system reboots (usually 'cause I crashed it, but not always), it doesn't. Everything goes fine up until the startup-sequence has completed and the system attempts to validate the disk in df0:. It tells me the disk is unreadable and continues to try to validate it. Moreover, with _no_ disk in df1:, I get the little disk icon with the caption "DF1:BAD". If I reboot again, it usually comes up no problem. I have an Amiga 1000 with a StarboardII (1/2 meg) and a Supra hard drive controller. I've done a memory diagnostic and it passed with flying colors. I just wondered if this sounded familiar to anyone. BTW. Please don't advise me to replace my 1000 with a 2000 (and especially not a 500). I can't afford to. It's that simple. Maybe next Christmas. MCR – San Jose, CA
#94082From: Nelson IngersollMar 13, 1990 11:45 PM
Michael – I strongly suspect that you have a bum chip or solder joint that goes bad after the unit warms up. The trick is to determine (A) if I'm right and (B) where the heck it is. My first impulse is to suggest that you let your Amiga dealer see it; but that may not be reasonable for several reasons. Barring that, you need to isolate the problem. Given that you understand that a careless person can QED blow the heck out of the system trying to fix it,,, meaning if you don't know how to fix modern, static sensitive electronics don't try to learn on your Amy! … here are some suggestions on how to isolate the problem: 1 – If you have an external floppy swap it with the internal unit making sure that necessary straps are noted and switched. This will determine if the problem is in the floppy or the "box" and will do so with the least amount of hassle. And frankly, given your description it seems like an obvious point of interest. 2 – Open the case and leave it open while using your A1000. Difficult but possible. IF the unit does not fail with the case open try warming it up… a hair dryer on low will typically help. BTW – With the case open you can also make sure all sockets and connections are good by pressing them together. It could indeed be a problem. <continued>
#94083From: Nelson IngersollMar 13, 1990 11:45 PM
<continuation> 3 – If you can get the unit to fail continuously once warm then you need to use some circuit cooler and a hair dryer to alternately try and isolate the area of the unit that is mis-behaving. I have not tried to be specific, because I figure that if you don't understand what I am talking about then you definitely don't need to be mucking about inside your Amiga. I don't know what your capabilities and skills are. You might be a super tech, then again you might not know which end of the screw-driver does what. (heh heh the blunt end is easier on thumbs than a hammer!!) – Nelson …
#94496From: Michael RiehleMar 17, 1990 8:24 PM
Nelson, I thought about the temperature sensitivity idea. The problem is, the Amiga does not necessarily have to warm up first before the problem occurs. But your point about a bad solder joint is good. If it were vibration sensitive it would be consistent with the symptoms I'm observing. I know my way around when dealing with electronic equipment. I also know enough not to muck with things if you don't have the right tools, which I don't. I used to do hardware, years ago, not anymore. I don't have the time or tools to do it right, so if it gets done, it will be done by my Amiga dealer. HT Electronics is pretty good about this stuff. MCR – San Jose, CA
#94235From: Gary LucasMar 15, 1990 9:04 AM
Michael, I sometimes have the same problem occasionally myself on each of my 4 A-1000's. I find that after turning ALL POWER OFF, disconnecting the StarBoardII and the HardDrive interface and re-connecting them has always cleared the problem for me. However, this may not be your problem. I hope that this might help. — Gary Lucas —
#94497From: Michael RiehleMar 17, 1990 8:24 PM
Gary, Actually I find a similar thing. Usually it just reboots if I try it again. But if it is stubborn, turning off the power to the A1000 for 30 secs and starting over from the kickstart fixes it fine. MCR – San Jose, CA
#94602From: Harry ManolopoulosMar 18, 1990 10:33 PM
I've had yearly trouble with the internal drive connector loosening up. It doesn't fit very tightly. Also, the edege connnnector for the 256K memory on the front can get dirty, I've had similar (not identical) problems until I cleaned it. I eventuallly took the entire PCB to work and cleaned it.
#94990From: Michael RiehleMar 21, 1990 11:40 PM
Harry, Well, I found that just keeping a disk in DF1: prevents the problem altogether. Now I'm totally confused. But it works. MCR – San Jose, CA
#95152From: Nelson IngersollMar 23, 1990 10:21 AM
Michael – Are you running some sort of NOKLICK program? Could that be the culprit? – Nelson …
#95546From: Michael RiehleMar 25, 1990 9:21 PM
Nelson, Nope, no NOKLICK programs on my machine. I don't find the click irritating. I find it reassuring, I know the machine is still running. I started with version 1.0 of the OS…. Anyway, I spoke too soon. I started keeping the disk in DF1: and it didn't crash for a couple of days. Then it did. <sigh> MCR – San Jose, CA