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#New CBM Authoring?

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#95298From: John DublerMar 24, 1990 10:10 AM
Ethan, I'd be interested in hearing any more you'd care to say about CBM's new authoring system. I've been wondering for some time with that, CanDo, and UltraCard, just what the differences are and what the different products are aimed at. *** John
#95301From: Kevin DarlingMar 24, 1990 10:40 AM
John – if you happen to catch Computer Chronicles (TV show on PBS), this week's included a demo of Amiga Vision (the authoring system). I taped it so I could go back and study the various machines and programs shown. Wish I had a digitizer so I could… hmmm… got a friend with one. Maybe I can convince him to make a GIF picture file to post?
#95358From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSMar 24, 1990 8:16 PM
I missed Computer Chornicles, but, a friend watched it and told me about it. He was of the opinion that Macrmind Director 'blew away' the Amiga Vision demo. Do you think so too? –Eet–
#95361From: Kevin DarlingMar 24, 1990 9:39 PM
Did you read my thread called "Byte desktop video show" starting at 95191? Yeah, I thought ALL the other demos blew away the Amiga one. AV did come across as a simple-to-use authoring system, but the demo lacked the ooomph and Wow factors of the Mac/PC demos. Of course, the Mac stuff came across as really professional, hi-quality… and I've seen people using similar programs to generate cartoons for TV shows… very impressive on a large Mac-ii monitor, and a lot of it is very powerful. Even when the sound playback can't keep up with the full-motion color animation, the authors I saw working didn't seem to mind. Strange, but true. Again, AV seemed simple in comparison, which however should be of great appeal to most people… and making something seem simple is hard to do, as we all know. In any case, it's gotten so I have to be sure to tape the Chronicles each week, as they cover the Amiga fairly often. PBS also had a show on animation, in which the Amiga was shown a lot (altho no brand names were mentioned) a few months back. Hafta dig that tape up again. But yes, C= could've/should've come up with some really *sharp* demo to match the others. – kev
#95370From: Lou WallaceMar 24, 1990 10:45 PM
Hmmmm…. I've been using the CBM Authoring System for a few months now, and can't say anything too specific about it just yet. And I didn't see the Chronicle show, wish I had. BUT.. Given that, if the demos CBM showed weren't outstanding IT'S A CRYING SHAME 'CAUSE THE SOFTWARE IS EXCELLENT! To go on a show like the Computer Chronicles without having absolutely outstanding demos makes no sense at all. Damn. Perhaps CBM didn't get much advance warning…
#95371From: Lou WallaceMar 24, 1990 10:46 PM
BTW, this is Lou Wallace, not Doug Barney. I'm online with the official AW account and posted the previous msg about the authoring system…
#95391From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSMar 25, 1990 12:39 AM
Hey, Lou? Does you guys get the Impulse newsletter? They had a little-tiny slammy at you guys in it. Something about Louie Markoya's TSilver article. I'm going to my back issues of AmigaWeird now to see if I can find the article in question <grin> –Eet–
#95403From: Black Belt SystemsMar 25, 1990 2:16 AM
Lou/Doug – you should probably change the name to AmigaWorld, then. Ben Amateur Radio Callsign is A A 7 A S
#96280From: Vic WagnerMar 31, 1990 3:30 PM
Lou, Tell Doug that I think he is mostly 'wet' in his editorial re: viruses in ComputerWorld. It's distressing to me that someone with that much authority over what I read can be so far of base. Victor A. Wagner, Jr.
#96298From: Lou WallaceMar 31, 1990 9:34 PM
Your comments would be more effective if you delivered them. Write to Doug via AmigaWorld. He likes to hear from readers, regardless of what they have to say.
#95424From: Kevin DarlingMar 25, 1990 3:32 AM
Even without much advance warning, they should've been prepared better, I think. The Macromind videotape shown from the Mac guys was obviously prepared well in advance and took a looooong time to create. But the viewer comes away with the impression that it was realtime super gfx, etc. And that of course is what you want to happen to viewers. Methinks offhand that C= falls into the same trap a lot of us do: that is, you think that just telling specs to someone should make them fall over and beg for the machine. Hardly. Someone else pops up with a really cool demo on another computer, and you're history, pal <grin>. Shoot, I could've done the same demo as the C= one with a tape deck, and some crayons, almost. Pretty weak compared to what has even been shown previously by Amiga 3td parties on the Chronicles.
#95498From: Ethan SolomitaMar 25, 1990 5:19 PM
The Authoring System has been shown publically, now twice, once at AmiExpo and again on national TV, so I would imagine that non-disclosure is over. — Ethan
#95718From: ScotMar 27, 1990 1:30 AM
You know, I saw it on Computer Chronicals too. It looked as if it were running under version 2.0 of the o/s. I mean the way some of the gadgets, etc. looked. Can anyone comfirm this? -Scot
#96025From: Ethan SolomitaMar 29, 1990 2:53 PM
I didn't see it on Computer Chronicles, but at the show it was running under 1.3 and things were still different, such as the scroll-arrows being next to each other in the corner. I thought that the system created those gadgets automatically, but I guess not. — Ethan
#96119From: Don NafisMar 30, 1990 6:58 AM
I saw Commodore demo the authoring system at NCGA in Philadelphia in March '89. Their word was then that it was almost ready. – Don Nafis – Nazlo Associates Ltd –
#96080From: Jim VentolaMar 29, 1990 10:28 PM
Doug– Yes. Sometimes "technical" departments forget to hire the "creative talents." BTW–if you are DB of Amiga Times, when can we expect a comparative review of All these programs, including Very Vivid's? Ooooopss–a million apologies. I meant _Amiga World_, of course. Very tired, tonight.
#96131From: Lou WallaceMar 30, 1990 8:30 AM
A comparison of three multimedia packages DVideo3, Interactor and CanDo. will be in the May issue. Lou
#96079From: Jim VentolaMar 29, 1990 10:26 PM
I'm confused: Is the MAC authoring software better or just the demo they made with it. One thing about Apple: they are not afraid to hire real artists. It pays off, I guess.
#96215From: Kevin DarlingMar 31, 1990 12:25 AM
Jim – the Mac demos were better… more colors, action, and so on. Dunno if the authoring software is better or not, altho I've seen some nice Mac systems in action and haven't seen AmigaVision except on TV. They're two different markets, really, I think. Pricewise, equipment-wise, possibly serious-wise (by that I meant AV is meant for the masses). Yesterdays' Chronicles was about Flight Sims on the PC. There were some nice demos, but they all got blown away by the company that sent a real fighter pilot/teacher to show theirs <grin>. So yes, a lot of it is in how/who/what you show your demos… as you said.
#95494From: Ethan SolomitaMar 25, 1990 5:19 PM
OK. Let's see how much more detail I can go into. The interface was very nice and clean. The main "window" contained a grid which represented the path your routines follow. Your program starts with the icon in the upper-left which is default set to a "routine-start" icon (a duodecahedron? 20-sided dice). The first command in the routine goes one down and to the right from it along the grid. Along the bottom are a series of categories, such as A/V and Flow. When you click on one (they are icons), you get another series of icons listing all the related icons which can be put in your routine. When you put them in you can edit them, to define specifically what they can do. It pops up a large requestor for each. You can put comments in anywhere. Also, if you have a routine that gets so large it gets in your way you can "telescope" it and it simply gets a place holder. It looks very well thought-out. — Ethan
#96281From: Vic WagnerMar 31, 1990 3:30 PM
Ethan A 20-sided die is called an icosahedron. Victor A. Wagner, Jr.