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#New DTP'r questions

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#6311From: Dennis KemeryJan 25, 1990 9:34 PM
Tom, Thanks! First of all, what exactly is pre-press? What are the most common technical problems you have with DTP output from beginners? Does a common standard exist which allows computer generated color graphics to match with final output? Is there a typesetter's bible or some such which governs spacing and punctuation? What does"rag" mean? I have some more, but I'll ask tomorrow when I have more time.
#6344From: Tom PetacciaJan 26, 1990 7:59 AM
Dennis – Well, I'm not the *most* experienced in these parts (Kathleen & Co can probably provide better answers), but here goes … 1). Pre-Press is just that. All materials leading up to printing: imagestter (Lino, Varityper, CG, etc.) positives, negatives, separations, etc. 2) I think the most common technical problem beginners have is trying to do too much too early. You may want to get your feet wet on simple black & white and spot color jobs before hitting color seps. 3) A common standard? I'm not sure I understand. For now, let me quote a software developer friend who says, "That's what I love about computer standards, you have so many to choose from." 4) If you're looking for a style guide, I recommend Strunk's "Elements of Style" 5) "Rag" has different meanings depending on the context. It can be a slang term for newspapers and magazines, or refer to the cotton/linen content (25% +) of a paper stock. There may be others. -Tom-
#6452From: Don ArnoldyJan 27, 1990 6:35 PM
Tom – Re:<5) "Rag" has different meanings depending on the context. > I think the most common meaning as used in DTP is short for "ragged" — as in rag right or rag left — as opposed to jusified. — don
#6345From: Brad Walrod <Sysop>Jan 26, 1990 8:22 AM
Dennis, Pre-press includes compiling all of the elements of a page that the printer needs for the actual print run. Different people take it to different levels, but remember that sometimes the best person to do some of this Pre-press stuff is the printer him/herself. Technical problems from beginners include: extra blank pages in a file which they don't tell you about but don't expect to pay for when you've run them out; missing specialty fonts and graphics files which are often necessary to have to get the job to run properly; the misunderstanding that just because a page output fine on their laser printer, it should run out on a Lino (there's a lot more info being calculated when you increase the resolution dramatically). 4-Color separations are probably best left to the pioneers in the field still. Spot color seps work pretty well, especially if you call for a Pantone Color which you can look at in Pantones book of swatches. Definitely don't trust your screen, and be advised that if you butt colors up against each other that you may run into trapping problems when printing. Use a printer who can compensate for his own press in this area. You should defintely seek out the Chicago Book of Style if you're unfamiliar with typesetting conventions. It's not cheap, but you'll have more details than you know what to do with, and your customers will appreciate it (one hopes) if you catch a misuse that their editor (assuming they've bothered to use a professional editor, which they may not) has missed. And, lastly, "Rag" in typesetting means that at least one edge of column of text is not set aligned with the surrounding text. Rag Left means that the right hand edge of a column is not consistent (or "justified"), Rag Right means the same for the left hand edge, Rag Center means neither of the edges are aligned, and Justified means that extra space has been added to the word and/or letterspacing so that both edges of a column align. <BW>
#6394From: Tom PetacciaJan 26, 1990 10:37 PM
Brad – I always thought that was "ragged right" and "ragged left" When did we lose the past tense? 🙂 -Tom-
#6426From: Skye Lininger <Sysop>Jan 27, 1990 1:35 PM
And the new WordPerfect terminology is "Justified Right" and "Justified Left" and "Full Justification." (They also have a "Justified Center," but I won't mention it here<g>.)
#6372From: Mark Niemann-RossJan 26, 1990 5:43 PM
There are currently two proposed standards for combining color images with electronically generated layouts. ~ OPI (Open Pre-Press Interface) – proposed by Aldus and ~ DCS (Desktop Color Separation Specification) – proposed by Quark The DCS technical description has been uploaded and is available in one of the libraries. (I believe it is in the Hi-Res lib. Brad, please correct me if I'm wrong.) Mark Niemann-Ross Quark 3rd Party Marketing Manager