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#KCS2-V.3.01 (cont.)

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#31202From: John ColdrickMar 25, 1990 5:18 PM
Well, ok – I was just going by that message you left which did leave the impression that you felt Level II lacked in capabilities – I wasn't following the entire stream – apologies if I misunderstood. I have played with the MTPro demo, btw, but it failed to impress me. That may be due to a lack of a manual, and serious demo-originated bugs(constantly locking out). As you state – these are all opinions – I personally disagree with the statement that '(level II's) interface is so horrible that it's not worth the effort' – but you're entitled to your opinion. I can't speak for the B&P team, so I can't categorically state what their intended market is, but I can hardly believe that you can ignore the powerful marco capabilities that can aid slightly-less-than proficient players. In the reviews that I've read that aspect tends to be pushed as a big selling point, and as a composer, I'm not terribly interested in a program that can play automatic harmony and and transposition for me. I prefer M's environment for that sort of stuff. But I'm not trying, in any event, to infer that because you like B&P you're not a capable player – that's silly. I'm simply pointing out that those sorts of things can be a major reason for some people to buy it, while a person is likely not going to spend $$$'s on Level II unless they're darn sure what they want and they need that hands-on flexibility. Btw – I assume that you have the latest version of Level II – do you not find the 'intuitionized' interface any more useful? I'm still waiting on mine… Cheers, J.C.
#31258From: Mar 26, 1990 6:10 PM
Note Off Velocity will most likely make it into version 2.0, which is debuting in the fall with a whole new look. (More congruent with the new Workbench 1.4 look.) I'll let you know when I can be more exact.
#31302From: Ray LewisMar 27, 1990 7:24 PM
The day you add the DMCS converter is the day I buy your program (actually, I might get it sooner, but if you want to make absolutely SURE I buy it, get that feature in!) Ray Lewis
#31305From: Mar 27, 1990 7:38 PM
I promise to announce the release of the DMCS converter here first! This shouldn't stop you from getting Bars&Pipes (if you'd like) beause the DMCS to Bars&Pipes converter while take the form of an Accessory, which can be loaded into Bars&Pipes. Look for it to appear in MusicBox B.
#31315From: Margaret CopelandJun 9, 1993 2:32 PM
Not yet, still looking, still shifting.
#31345From: Vance SchowalterJun 9, 1993 11:53 PM
MC> Not yet, still looking, still shifting. Who? You, or Heisenberg's brain? *8) -= Vance =- Image Master using Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster!
#31331From: Nick MurrayMar 28, 1990 11:38 AM
Melissa, Put my vote in for allowing an upgrade path from Pro-Midi to B&P. I've invested a lot of money and time into Pro-Midi, and would love to move up. I can't even install Pro-Midi on my new harddrive, which pi__es me off to no end!! Thanks for listening to us!! -Nick
#31338From: jay a herzogMar 28, 1990 5:37 PM
For some reason, my AMAS samples (saved as IFF files) have never been able to be loaded into SONIX or MUSIC-X. The other sounds on AMAS however (those that came ojn the disk) all work. HELP. Does anyone have the same problem? Thanks Jay
#31256From: Black Belt SystemsJun 8, 1993 9:43 PM
Actually… that particular theory isn't well-accepted anymore… because it's quite clear that even Heisenberg himself was uncertain about it. :^) –Ben …via AutoPilot
#31265From: Jim SteeleJun 8, 1993 11:15 PM
Oh well, I never bought that theory anyway. It alway struck me as confusing technological limits with fundamental ones. But then, physics was never my strong suit, or even a mediocre pair of jeans. :/ -Jim
#31290From: Peter GreciJun 9, 1993 11:53 AM
But of course. METERS ????? Blimey, bugger off with that Metric Rot. My search for T-Rex continues…….Maybe I could get a Photo of Marc Bolan and …………..
#31339From: Jim SteeleJun 9, 1993 10:20 PM
Stone the crows! I thought everybody used the metric system. 🙂 Though I admit the closest I get is the 2-liter Pepsi. Speaking of 3d objects though… (we were, right?…) Have you seen the Euclid object scanner? Apparently, it connects to a Toaster system. Lasers and two video cameras scan the object as it rotates on a turntable. Not cheap though… I know a guy who made 3d objects by getting plastic models, slicing them into sections with a bandsaw, and digitizing the cross sections. Cheaper, but more work. I don't know how well that technique would work on an organic object. This guy did mostly machinery.
#31381From: Peter GreciJun 10, 1993 1:25 PM
Jim, a gent on Amiga_Video says he's seen the results of the Euclid 3D Digitizer and was unimpressed, they needed a TON of Touchup work he claims. At $6000 or so, it's a big pill to swallow. Also I believe the max size is relatively small like a foot by a foot and a half. I hate the Metric System. Long Live the Crappy System we use now. I'd go bonker's trying to relearn math.
#31400From: Jim SteeleJun 10, 1993 8:27 PM
Pete, A friend of mine contacted the company. They sent him a beta version of the manual. It looked interesting, but as you say, expensive. By an odd coincidence, the laser bit was one approach I considered when I first started hacking on a homebrew scanner. I couldn't convince myself that the thing would read complex objects correctly… even after seeing it work on one of those Discovery Channel techie shows. I decided to go mechanical. A real Rube Goldberg contraption. 🙂 It's still too early to know if it will work… and I keep changing my mind on the basic design.
#31503From: Peter GreciJun 12, 1993 12:33 PM
Some of these Gadget's use a light pen like thingy to grab points for the outline of the object. Then there's the one for $80 or so from the Animatrix folks, I believe the way it works is first you shoot 2 views of the Model to be digitized with a 35mm camera, devolop the film. Then place each of the 2 pictures on a Drawing Tablet and Use the Stylus to mark points on the outline of each of the View then the Software interpolates the 2 sets of points into a 3D model. It may be 3 views tho. They usually advertise in the back of AW and VTU, If I had a Drawing Tablet handy I'd probably have gotten it by now.
#31544From: Jim SteeleJun 12, 1993 9:58 PM
I have seen some 3-d scanners that look like the traditional magnetic or RF drawing tablets extended to 3d. There was one in a documentary on the making of Amazing Stories. The Olmec head was digitized with one of those. I like that idea, because you can pick exactly where the vertices are. The laser scanner slices it up on a grid. I did see a surplus scanner & laser from a printer for $40… might be worth a try. My approach looks like a lathe. The object will be mounted on the axis. Above it is a sliding platform. On that platform is a probe that comes down to a needle resting on the object. The probe will be encoded with something more or less like a mouse. At least that's the theory. 🙂 I'm still considering something like a luxo lamp with potentiometers on the joints. A new experimenter's microcontroller board in the latest Electronics Now mag would make that easy.
#31607From: Peter GreciJun 14, 1993 5:53 PM
Good Luck with your 3D Digitizer idea. I hope you get it to work well and malke Millions selling them for $50 each heheheheheheh
#31476From: Anthony RamirezJun 12, 1993 1:14 AM
>Have you seen the Euclid object scanner? I didn't see it myself but the local Amiga Store bought one then promptly returned it since it didn't work right at all. It would get the basic shape but it added SOOOoooo much garbage it wasn't worth the trouble, especially after paying so much money for it. Btw, I don't think it uses any lasers.
#31545From: Jim SteeleJun 12, 1993 9:58 PM
If it's the same one I'm thinking of, I saw the manual. It's plastered all over with Laser warnings. Thanks for the review… I'll pass it along to the guy thinking of getting one. Jim