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#A2090B

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#95248From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 23, 1990 11:44 PM
Dave, About 6 months ago, Commodore published a list of products that they said would be available in the last quarter of '89. These were "announced" vs "technology previews" products. Anyway, among them was the A2090B, the 1/2 slot card to make an A2090 work as an autoboot HD controller. I've yet to see this product on the market…can you fill me (us) in on CBM's plans for the A2090B? Don
#95263From: James ScottMar 24, 1990 1:12 AM
There is a company Called CENTAUR that Sells a Card that will do just that it's called CSI 6100 List for about 119.95 I have seen it listed on a Mail order Catalog "Abel Supply" for 84.37. Give them a call and see if they have them instock sounds like a good price. ……….James……….
#95364From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 24, 1990 10:23 PM
James, Thanks…but I'm after information on the A2090B specifically. Don
#95497From: Ethan SolomitaMar 25, 1990 5:19 PM
I believe it is out, but I'm not sure. It might be just that it isn't being stocked by most people. — Ethan
#95615From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 26, 1990 9:14 AM
Don, The 2090B seems to have evolved into the 2091, which, as you probably know, uses only about 1/3 of the card for circuitry, leaving room to mount the hard drive right on the card. If I can find out anything else about the 2090B, I'll be sure to let you know. Dave Commodore Online Relations
#95641From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 26, 1990 12:09 PM
Dave, Curious – my new computer has the 1091, but they still put the drive in the df1: bay. Wonder why? I'd really have liked that bay for another floppy! ……Betty
#95726From: Ben A LottMar 27, 1990 8:04 AM
just move the drive to the card. Ben
#95758From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 27, 1990 5:21 PM
Of course, I could do that – but I still wonder why they are shipping the card/drive combination with the card in the df1: bay. THAT was my question. ……Betty
#95822From: Ben A LottMar 27, 1990 11:27 PM
Obviously it's done that way just to be difficult, no just kidding. The way it's shipped makes 100% good sence, becuase of the way UPS and APA handle things (C= shipping companies), the drive is more secure in the drive bay than on the card, wich might break if, nay when it get tossed, bashed, and bounced. Ben
#95729From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 27, 1990 9:21 AM
Betty, Maybe because the person that intalled the drive didn't know that the 2091 was going to be used???? ::grin:: Either that or they used a 2091 instead of a 2091/40, which would have been simpler. Doesn't take much time to move the drive from the DF1: bay to the 2091 should you want to install another floppy. I just did that on my machine, but I don't have a 2091. Have to find someplace else to put the hard drive now. Dave Commodore Online Relations
#95784From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 27, 1990 7:31 PM
This was one of the Educational bundles, Dave. Seems to me that Commodore should be putting them on the card if they can go that way. I do hope they change. ……Betty
#95854From: Rick MoyerMar 28, 1990 3:16 AM
Well, I have two Amiga's, a 2000 with a GVP/Quantum 105s Hard Card, and a 2500/030 which I swapped out the 40 megger for a 100 megger, except that I located the replacemet drive in one of the 3.5" bays simly because I'm starting to be of the opinion that mounting drives directly to the card is'nt such a good idea, after I recently burned up an EPROM on a Quantum drive. I suspect heat build up (Quantum PCB's do run hot, btw) was the cause after I noticed so blistering on the PCB coating directly underneath the EPROM socket. I would think most hard drive users probably don't really need a second 3.5" floppy drive anyway, so the best place for a 3.5" HD would be right where Commodre instals them.At least they left the option open to the user…
#95893From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 28, 1990 2:33 PM
When you do all of the disk copying for a club with two hundred or more members, you really do need more floppy drives, though, Rick. And I do that every month – have done it for years. ……Betty
#95911From: Harry ManolopoulosMar 28, 1990 4:38 PM
Gee, how many floppy dirves have you burned out <grin> HarryM
#95919From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 28, 1990 6:39 PM
Would you believe that I have never even had to realign a drive in my Amigas? Not since 1985, and most of that time I have had just two floppies to work with. Have three now, and would have four if that second 3 1/2" slot were not filled with my HD. Now back in the 1541 days, I was constantly realigning. The old 4040s were really reliable, though. ……Betty
#95863From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 28, 1990 8:51 AM
Betty, See my response to Steve. I explained there what happened. Dave Commodore Online Relations
#95894From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 28, 1990 2:33 PM
Dave, Thanks. Saw it in the same posting in which my question was uploaded. Sorry about the crossover. – – And thanks for the information. ……Betty
#96004From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 29, 1990 8:46 AM
Betty, No problem. 🙂 Dave Commodore Online Relations
#95960From: Donald YoungnerMar 28, 1990 10:45 PM
Betty, I have found this to be a puzzle for me too. When I first saw the 2091 it looked just like the GVP card so I gave them a call and they said that one of the engineers designed the 2091 for CBM Donald Y.
#96038From: Dean BrownMar 29, 1990 5:37 PM
Donald, One of the people involved in the development of the A590/2091 has since left CBM and now works for GVP. That is the only link between the two products that I know of. Dean DKB Software
#96187From: Donald YoungnerMar 30, 1990 9:27 PM
I think the person that were talking about now owns GVP. Don.Y
#95659From: Steve AhlstromMar 26, 1990 5:47 PM
Dave, If the 2091 allows for the HD to be mounted, why are the 2500s still being shipped with the HD taking up a drive bay? -sja
#95730From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 27, 1990 9:21 AM
Steve, I really don't know. I'll ask around and see if they will switch to mounting them on the card instead. Dave Commodore Online Relations
#95747From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 27, 1990 1:22 PM
Steve, Found out the story on the 2091 equipped 2000HDs and 2500s that have the hard drive mounted in the drive bay. When the 2091 came into production, they went back and replaced all the 2090As with 2091s in the on-hand stock. Once they were completed, all furter production units got the 2091 with the hard drive mounted on the card. Dave Commodore Online Relations
#96068From: Allen MittsMar 29, 1990 9:32 PM
Steve, I just recently purchased a 2091. While calling around for prices, one computer company (which I am sure everyone here would know if I mentioned their name) told me that in no uncertain terms would a hard drive fit on a 2091 controller. I would have to mount it in the bay. Of course, I now do have an 80 meg Quantum mounted on the 2091 and a totally empty bay. Regards, Allen
#95706From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 26, 1990 11:45 PM
Dave, Humm…the 2090B was supposed to be an inexpensive upgrade to the 2090…to allow it to work like a 2090a. The 2091 is a whole new controller and significantly more expensive. I'd appreciate it if you could check deeper and see what really happened with the 2090b. Don
#95731From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 27, 1990 9:21 AM
Don, Will do! Dave Commodore Online Relations
#95746From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 27, 1990 1:21 PM
Don, Got the scoop on the 2090B. It was a sandwich board addition to the 2090. Unfortunately, it never worked correctly, so it was dropped. Dave Commodore Online Relations
#95810From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 27, 1990 10:54 PM
Dave, Ok…thanks for checking…while it's not the answer I wanted, at least it answers my question. Don
#95864From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandMar 28, 1990 8:51 AM
Don, You're welcome. It's a shame that it didn't work out. It would have been a great upgrade for A2090 owners. Dave Commodore Online Relations