This is an archive of CompuServe forum messages from 1985 to 1995, as saved in transcripts by John Foust.
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John, I'm sure you need a pin-out reading, which I don't know – – and that you'd have to change some of the wires to different pins (or find an adapter) to make it work. I'm sorry that I can't be of help on this. —Betty
#Trakball from Amiga2PC
Message #48637
I am attempting to use a Microspeed Trakball that I used on my Amiga on my PC. It has the same 9 pin female plug and plugs in fine but doesn't work. What do I need to do to get it working? Someone has said there needs to be some…
Ian, >> AddPower written in assembly is about 18K in size. Wow, pretty small >> for all it does. The same thing (with a much improved interface, and >> a few more features) is about 100K in C well, I solved this kinda problems by (1) not linking with c.o,…
>>assembler will produce the most efficient programs of them all. Absolutely correct. I have been using assembler for years, in fact most of my Amiga programs are in it. But the problem is that the larger projects get, the more impossible it is to manage them. I can't even figure…
Bart, >If I were to translate a text from english to flemish, I wouldn't think of translating it into russian and then into flemish. Same thing goes for programming.>Same thing goes for programming.>I took over the responsibility for the department I am working for
I have never actually tried to write a compiler but I read about the tiny BASIC interpreters that used to be popular on old 8 bit machines. They sound quite simple but IMHO C sounds like a more difficuly language to compile. You have to keep track of nested structures…
>>and I think I could create an assembler or a compiler for a simple langauge like Basic, but I would not know how to start desinging a C compiler.>And how do you create your own debugger without using someone else's debugger? It is possible, but it would be a difficult…
> >>Getting more out of fewer staff seems to be the main aim where I am > working now, and I think it is true in most places. Same here, but I remain convinced that it *should* not be this way. I agree but it seems to be the way…
Greg, Is it really so hard to understand that a text of say twenty pages is more prone to contain errors than one of two pages? If not, why are people taught to split a big project into small overseeable ones? Furthermore, isn't it a normal fact of life that…
I agree with nearly everything you state. HOWEVER: it remains un undisputable truth that, at least in principle (and as far as I am concerned, in reality), assembler will produce the most efficient programs of them all. If I were to translate a text from english to flemish, I wouldn't…
>>Getting more out of fewer staff seems to be the main aim where I am working now, and I think it is true in most places.>Safety critical applications are another issue. You need development tools that have been very well designed and very thoroughly tested.>I would be more uneasy getting…
Hey, cool! I didn't know you were messing around with Java these days. Have anything on your web site yet? Try: http://www.vectorman.com/ with your HotJava browser, for a pretty impressive applet.
Yup, I'm sure. I run it on Win95 every day, along with Java on Sun workstations. It's been out for weeks. I do my Java development on the Sun, though. The last I heard a Linux version exists, but it's very very unstable and needs a lot of work. (That's…
Alex, HotJava (for Windows) is only up to Alpha version 3 — it is extremely unstable. However, that said, it runs fine under Win95 — "fine" meaning that it'll crash no more often under 95 than it does under NT. At work I run it under both 95 and Solaris.…
If you have SAS 6.50 this can compile C++. It is not as up to date as some other compilers, it does not include templates or exceptions. Peter Wade Autopiloting from London, England
C++ Options
Message #48414
>now I'm ready to consider getting C++ going. Your C++ options include: Comeau C++ 3.0b With Templates, SAS/C++, g++, and Maxxon C++.
PMFJI, But did you say Java runs under Windows 95? Windows 95??? Are you sure? I am a whisker away from installing NT in order to get Java, but I have been put off temporarily by some horror stories, which imply I would need a new H/D.. I am very…
Hi Peter At this point, may I jump in and say that while OOP may display a lot of commonality with modular and structured programming, it is much more than that, and it is a (common) mistake to use it simply as a neat modular technique. As you say, that…
At this point I'd like to jump in and mention (as if you didn't know) that the reason the Amiga's exec is so good is _because_ it is programmed in an Object-Oriented style, although not in an object-oriented language…. However, it could be replicated fairly quicly in -say – C++…
greetings…. I am alittle new and have not read alot of the messages. I just got my SAS C to work right, now I'm ready to consider getting C++ going. I have taken this and used Borland, naturally. What are my options: GNU C++?
> >>The idea of building all my own tools has a certain apeal to me but in > reality I don't have the expertise or the time to write a compiler, and I > expect that goes for most amateur and professional developers. For the amateurs, I agree. An amateur…
Programming SIG
Message #48386
Hello All, I am organizing a programming SIG for my local Amiga user group here in Sacramento CA. I would appreciate any and all comments/suggestions/etc. With Escom and Amiga Technologies reviving the Amiga, there will be a renewed need for quality software. The Amiga will need software which is functionally…
>>This doesn't follow and is unfounded. >Is it? At least in the case of C, it is a fact that C is now a subset of C++ >and not vice versa. Logic clearly dictates that if a program contains more >instructions there are more chances for errors and, statistically at…
>>This doesn't follow and is unfounded.
>>This implies "dead code"
>>You mean compile-time-wise?
>> That's to overcome the sluggishness of present day programs (using sloppy compilers?) and operating systems such as Windows ..
>>You are saying that OO is always larger/slower/whatever.>Again, as well, programming languages and methodologies don't guarantee anything, nor do they write or design our apps for us. We are still the vital part, and there is no excuse for failing to make the effort to put the pieces together correctly.…
>>They are disjoint issues, how could they not be?
>>The idea of building all my own tools has a certain apeal to me but in reality I don't have the expertise or the time to write a compiler, and I expect that goes for most amateur and professional developers.>But that is an extreme case, I find most compilers are…
>>>I am against the use of HLL's by programmers making commercial >programs if they didn't program the HLL themselves because of the errors. >>But compiler writers usually don't necessarily also write the business apps too. And I'd be hard pressed to stop one project so that the same programmer could…
>>assemblers that actually have HLL constructs>For sure then, you might find program, compiler, OS, etc bugs in assembler faster and so on that in a HLL language. Just like I will probably do so in C and C++ than in Ada.>I don't see it as a good (or bad) issue.…
Greg, you are right, I haven't been very clear asking away that question about Ispell, let me try to explain. I have the source and the binaries of Ispell, which is a spellchecker with an arexx port. The archive comes with an english dictionary. The source states that provided one…
It seems to me that he was implying that Ispell was a dictionary, though it sounds like a spell check program, but anyway that he downloaded the source and wanted to get a binary of it somehow. Lieven, please elaborate!
Greg, >(say MS-Windows vs X11, or C++ vs MS-Windows)< valleys vs mountains, apples vs pears…:-? Dieter Goettmann jetting on AP1.80 \/ 11 /\ from Karlsruhe, Germany /\ || on /==\MIGA
>thank you for so much agreement 🙂 🙂 >X11 also started before OO languages were en vogue. This was really the root of my question. That is to say, the models don't necessarily mix (say MS-Windows vs X11, or C++ vs MS-Windows), although similar in ways, and so, although I…
Bart, thank you for so much agreement 🙂 Sorry, but i fear i can't help you with MS.* I doubt there are _any_ concepts… If you go to XWindows, you'll find again a lot of classes and methods with respect to AmigaOS w boopsi – i know, its programming interfaces…
#GCC
Message #48316
Hi, I recently downloaded Ispell, and would like to make my own dictionary. I have GNU-GCC installed, but as I am not a programmer at all, just don't know where to start. Can anyone guide me through ? . – Lieven Lema
#ObjectOriented
Message #48301
>Replay: using OO techniques is a matter of style and not of a language. I agree. On the same hand, I think the language cannot escape the issue at some point in the process. Surely the language should be completely secondarly, but surely it cannot be considered insignificant either. >Add:…
>I can see that you don't need a special OO language to use OO techniques. Though it is preferred (IMO). >Not only that you can use non-OO techniques with some OO languages! Absolutely. IMO, this is the real beauty of hybrid languages like C++. This differs from say Smalltalk, which…
>The idea of building all my own tools has a certain apeal to me but in reality >I don't have the expertise or the time to write a compiler, and I expect that >goes for most amateur and professional developers. It really cannot be any other way. As much fun…
A somewhat late afterthought to the search-methodology question: I've just uploaded an ARexx program plus data file in library 7 of the AmigaUser forum. It uses the built-in "hashing" system of ARexx to find indexed stuff fast. And/or: if you have access to a Commodore 64, I've uploaded the same…
Greg, Replay: using OO techniques is a matter of style and not of a language. Add: To me, a language is a medium to transport my ideas to others, or for instance instructions to a computer. If a language does this well, i'll use it, otherwise not. Independent of a…
The easiest way to be completely free with bobs and sprites dimensions in AMOS is to draw your sprites with Deluxe Paint and grab them with a self-made frame grabber. I wrote one myself, and it's very easy: when you finished drawing your bobs, draw a rectangle around them with…
> I think this is related to an issue Peter was trying to understand > better. Being told not to fiddle is different that being not allowed to > accidently fiddle [directly]. Peter, do you see this? Yes, I saw Jim's message. I have heard people say that the Amiga's…
> … I am against the use of HLL's by programmers making commercial > programs if they didn't program the HLL themselves because of the errors. The idea of building all my own tools has a certain apeal to me but in reality I don't have the expertise or the…
>Exec has more than just simple >encapsulation: Classes with transmitted sub-classes and methods. Using >semaphores or one of the various other message systems, you may implement >independent interacting objects. How does this compare to say MS-Windows notions of these things (object and so on)?
>I'm arguing for the OO side, of course. Yes, I wasn't disputing that (I am too). >Reviewing my programming styles back to '72, using object classes and methods >grew up in a natural-like matter, with a kind suppport of amiga os libraries >in the last eight years. As a result,…
Greg, I'm arguing for the OO side, of course. Reviewing my programming styles back to '72, using object classes and methods grew up in a natural-like matter, with a kind suppport of amiga os libraries in the last eight years. As a result, prototypes and reusable code were a convenient…
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