#Standard Frame Size
11-Apr-93 23:35:41
Sb: #28839-#Standard Frame Size
Fm: Vince Pilgrim 71333,1371
To: Erik Flom 71204,407
Erik, thank you for your comeback on this issue. I do appreciate it. Well, as
you have probably guessed, my knowledge of the Toasters, along with the Amigas,
is nill, but I'm trying to learn something new. Toria was a bit soft, but that
is kinda normal from that feeder too. The 3/4 SP U-Matics may not be D1
quality, but more than adequate for the production work we do here (we still
use quads <g>). We are using the BVU-950 series and find the chroma stability
and accuracy to be superior to some of the newer analog formats that have been
showing up, but that is really all a matter of preference <grin>. Of course,
like an idiot, I stripped that sweep (ramp) off in the resizing process (habit
since I only use it internally) but will put another one up with it included
(great idea that I'd not thought of). In fact, it is part of a composit VITS
that is stuck in line 21 just for verification in the digital conversion
process which I could also put up as a full frame for reference if you think it
would help (would a LHAed 24 bit 640 x 480 TARGA format file be best for that
since JPEG would foul it up?). I'm still somewhat confused by the standard size
and aspect ratio of these simulated framestore images. One of the responses
pointed me toward a 752 x 480 size/ratio, which is what the new ones are speced
at, but I've seen 736 x 482, 672 x 560, and 768 x 482. It is really all
somewhat confusing at this point. I based what I saw on the CADIMA.JPG frame
from one of the libraries and was wondering if this was typical from an NTSC
freeze frame of a real world source. Like I said, trying to learn something
new <g>. Ten year old Laser Disk player? I've got one of those too <g>. The
LD1100 from an 83 purchase in the AAFES outlet at Clark AB, which doesn't even
exist any more. Still works and has been all over the world with me. Of
course, there are some others in use too. Even got one of those things from 80
that doesn't even have CX decoding that I picked up in Seattle for $20 for
parts. Funny thing was that it still worked and I didn't have the heart to chop
it up, so it's still here too. I would be interested in seeing your framestore
from the disk since it will probably be a good represeatation of what to
expect. Internally as D-2? That would be the 4:2:2 Y/R-Y/B-Y component
digitized, same way the TBC handles it internally. Could be wrong, but I
remember seeing somewhere in the service manual that preemphasis is applied
prior to digitization and deemphasis on the analog end for noise reduction and
probably a bit of smoothing. Originally, I was pulling the digital data out of
the TBC in component form and converting to R/G/B in the computer, what a pain,
but have discovered how to tell it to give me a transcoded R/G/B output as
24/24/24. It is still easier to get that down to an 8/8/8 format in the
computer, and, it is already linear. I'll put another image up tonight with
the inserted VITS in tact which may give a few ideas. Thanks a million, Erik.
I do appreciate all the assistance in this learning experience. Maybe we can
find an answer to that ellusive gamma question.
Vince