VB vs Toolbook?
16-Jan-94 04:29:32
Sb: #76522-VB vs Toolbook?
Fm: GARRY HARGREAVES 100017,242
To: Andrew McClary 71234,35
Good to talk to you Andrew. This type of discussion is certainly
advantageous to all parties concerned, swamping ideas and
opinions is also very healthy and is basically what C'Serve is
design for.
Some comments about your response if I may:
AMc>"What you have said about windows is somewhat true. (Though
AMc>I am running my Windows machine at 1024×768 at 65k colors and
AMc>rarely experience speed problems that make me yawn.)"
[Running Windows, or any package, at 1024x768x65000 color is
good, however you must have a decent machine to do so and not
have any speed degradation..Are you probably running a 386/486
with some (8ish Mb) RAM and obviously a hi color card . Since we
are talking about Authoring, do you author in that res and at
that color depth? Probably not cos' you then your clients would
need to have a comparable machine…and card that can drive in
that resolution/color.
Does'nt this sound familiar, WINDOWS did not change things
dramatically. See, you still have to ask the same questions a
DOS authoring person does . Questions like what resolution and
what color depth can my client access? If I stick with
640x480x16 it doesnt look photorealistic – but anyone running
Window can run it. If I try for 640x480x256 and above it looks
good but can clients access it. SO MUCH FOR A STANDARD?]
AMc>The biggest advantage, period, to windows is that you don't
AMc>have to worry about the hardware they are running it.
AMc>Getting drivers for their graphics card, sound card, etc. is
AMc>all handled by the manufactures of the boards.
[Yeah your right, but windows still has to be set up. How many
articles do you see about getting the best out of WINDOWS? And
why do people write such articles if it's such a standard?
..WHAT's the difference configuring WINDOWS (alter win.ini) to
run in Hi reZ/HI COLOR OR configuring DOS (choose a
different Config.sys).????
AMc>Once the drivers are set up the people can forget about them,
AMc>and most systems now come pre configured.
[I hope so. The single best thing WINDOWS has done…IS TO FORCE
MACHINE MANUFACTURES TO DESIGN FASTER CHIPS & MACHINES…to give
windows some performance] S3 video card is a perfect example –
It's been especially designed (accelerated) to get windows to
perform.]
AMc>We have gotten very few calls from people having problems
AMc>running our CD-ROM title, yet I have 5 Multi-media DOS CD's
AMc>sitting on my desk now that took reconfiguring my whole
AMc>system to get them to run because some arrogant DOS
AMc>programmer felt that I should dump all of my TSRs and
AMc>reconfigure my system to be able to run one game.
[Once again, the reason you don't have to worry is because
author's of the CD thought about questions like what start up res
what color depth..Chances are they were authored in 640x480x16
mode cos' if they go to hi res/hi color they have the same
problem's a DOS authorer has…What is my TARGET machine. Does
the person have the drivers, are they loaded, does s/he now how
load addition drivers.] So what's changed again?
AMc>I returned one the other day because it wouldn't reconize
AMc>my new high end sound card. Bottom line, DOS stuff is a lot
AMc>faster in some cases, but for the general public, who doesn't
AMc>want or know how to play with their config.sys and
AMc>autoexec.bat file, Windows is the best solution for the
AMc>general public.
[faster in ALL cases]
[The public who don't wish to choose a different startup
configurations are the same people who will be overjoyed to
reconfiging WINDOWS loading and unloading drivers to get the best
look out their application.
QUESTION 1: Why doesn't MicroSoft run Flight Simulator under
windows?
QUESTION 2. Why is there even a WINDOWS SETUP icon if it's dosn't
need reconfiguring?]
AMc>(Also figure that almost every new machine sold comes
preconfigured with windows.)
[I hope your right, because if the machine is high powered enough
to get some performance out of windows then my DOS programs will
run even FASTER]
[There is a perception among the public (and some computer
software developers) that they are old fashion if they don't
release a WINDOWS version of their product. Even if what they
release is INFERIOR to their DOS version. WordPerfect is a prime
example…The typist at work who use DOS WP 5.1 have just changed
over to WINDOWS and all bitching – my am I waiting so long for
spell check, printing, etc etc..
Do you think AUTODESK will force YOST to bring out a windows
version of 3DSTUDIO???? I think the important word here is
FORCED!]
For beginners WINDOW is good (no obscure character commands) BUT
at some stage the user will want to know more…I hate those
annoying little messages…Do you want to print ..YES…are you
sure…YES…Choose YES to continue…ERRRRRRR!
Is WINDOWS the future? Look MicroSoft makes both, why would a
smart man like GATES just stop production on a money earner?
The main problem with windows is while people are watching the
HOUR GLASS ICON they are not being productive. (and let's not
even talk about that multitasking farce)
Anyway good talking to you.
Though we are in the wrong forum for a WINDOWS LOVE/HATE FEAST –
Once again I'm not a WINDOWS BASHER, I have windows and use
windows – but only when I've some time to kill! <grin>
CU GH