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Tom, I see a problem with your setup, but I don't understand why the ritual cures the problem. The bottom line is that you have a MIDI feedback loop. First, you have TPP Out 1 connected to Clav In and then Clav Out connected to Kurz In, and finally, Kurz Thru is Connected to SC In 2. When you use TPP Out 1, it should only sound the Clav. Data received at the Clav's In is NOT echoed to the Clav's Out. So it makes sense that you don't hear any sound from the Kurz when using TPP Out 1. You're probably also not receiving any data to the SC at this point. Next, you have TPP Out 2 connected to the SC In 1. So when you play B&P Pro with TPP Out 2, the only think you should hear is the SC. TPP Out 2 is NOT connected to the Kurzweil, so you should not have any MIDI activity there. So it doesn't make sense to me that the Kurz works with TPP Out 2. To get sound from the Kurzweil, you would have to direct one of TPP's Outs to the In of the Kurzweil. However, you have the Thru of the SC connected to the TPP In. There is your MIDI feedback loop. The flow is TPP Out 2 to SC In 1, then the data is echoed from the SC Thru back to the TPP In. So I don't know why the Kurz works with TPP Out 2, and then ultimately with TPP Out 1. From the way you described your setup, the Kurz should never work from B&P Pro. Here's a couple of thoughts. The Clav Out should only pass data when you're playing the Clav's keyboard. That means when you play the Clav in real time it should pass MIDI data to the Kurz and to the SC. Is it possible that the Clav's Out is actually a Thru or an Out/Thru? If so, then I think I see part of the problem. You mention that when TPP Out 1 doesn't work, you load a TPP Out 2 tool. However, the rest of the tracks still have TPP Out 1 tools still there. Maybe what's happening is that when you select TPP Out 2 the data goes to the SC then is passed through the SC's Thru port back to B&P Pro via the TPP In. Then the data is again passed to the TPP Out 1 (on those tracks where it is still there) and goes to the Clav's In. If the Clav's Out is functioning as a Thru, then the data will be passed to the Kurz In and then to the SC's In 2. However, if the Clav's Out is functioning as a Thru, then the Kurz should sound when you use TPP Out 1. You shouldn't have to perform the ritual. Maybe, the Clav Out only functions as a Thru after it receives multiple MIDI data at its In port. That would explain your problem. When using TPP Out 1, the SC's Out functions as an Out. When it receives multiple MIDI data (because of the MIDI feedback loop when you use TPP Out 2), the SC's Out functions as a Thru. That would explain why you get sound from the Kurz when you first use TPP Out 2. Then when you switch back to TPP Out 1, the Clav's Out still functions as a Thru. I hope I didn't confuse you. I'm really not certain WHY you have to go through the ritual or why the ritual does work. However, I do know that your setup is not right. First, double check the manual about the Clav's MIDI Out. You need to get the signal from the Clav to the Kurz when using TPP Out 1. Your current setup doesn't do that. Signals received at the Clav's In are NOT passed to the Clav's Out. If you hook up the Clav's Thru to the Kurz's In, then the Kurz should work the first time with TPP Out 1. Then you would need to repatch the Clav's Out to the Kurz's In if you wanted to play the Kurz in real time from the Clav. However, you can setup B&P Pro to echo what is received at the TPP In. So if you hook up the Clav Out to the TPP In, and the Clav Thru (if it has one) to the Kurz In, then what you play will be sent to B&P Pro, then echoed back to the Clav and passed on to the Kurz and SC. In this way, you will be able to hear what you play on any module, plus you will be able to hear all your modules be played from B&P Pro when using TPP Out 1, and without the ritual. So rather than try to discover why you have to go through the ritual, I suggest changing your MIDI wiring configuration. You may want to get an external MIDI Thru Box or a MIDI patchbay. Thru Boxes are pretty cheap. You don't really need a MIDI patchbay yet, but if you plan on getting more MIDI gear, you'll need one eventually, so you might as well bypass the Thru Box and go straight for the MIDI patchbay. I know. I originally bought a Thru Box and quickly outgrew it. I now have two MIDI patchbays. I hope this was helpful. You can also reach Blue Ribbon directly by leaving a message here for Adam Nitti from Blue Ribbon. Good luck and keep me posted. Dom Fontana –> Sent from NY via AP <–