#SECOND CITY
31-Dec-94 15:33:23
Sb: #144082-#SECOND CITY
Fm: Bruce McGlasson 73160,1312
To: David J. Marks 72172,1036
Hi – Dave,
Very good, sir!!! Very well put indeed! I agree with most of your observations
re the state of individual restraint and aggression in the SC2K forum. I
stumbled into this section purely by accident. When did all this horizontal
shifting take place? While its true that a couple of people exhibited a little
irritation at the lack of focus in some messages, I don't see why anyone needed
to be shifted from the section that generated the discussions to this strange
beast of bits and pieces and marked down merchandise.
dm to gy on Forum Courtesy
<<Thanks, Gary. The SC2000 project is the strongest group effort I've seen in
my nearly 2 years on the forum. It may very well become a collective
illustration of all the talent that frequents ASOFT. I'm sure that your thread
cleaning will help the focus return to the exciting project at hand.>>
If you've been reading most of what's been posted there, and I'm sure you have,
you know that while there may be hundreds or even thousands of readers lurking
around waiting for an animated 3D city to magically appear, there is not a huge
number of message writers. According to Joe, the Wiz of Sysopothy, the volume
of messages is quite high. And although every message may not address a topic
exclusive to the development of SC2K, the vast majority of messages are
directly related to the evolving concept of SC2K. To disrupt the collective
stream of consciousness at this point might not have been a good idea.
I frequent the SC2K section to see what new concepts are being explored, and to
read some very interesting and often informative embellishments which are just
good clean fun regardless of their connection to charters, zones, restrictions,
or any specific architectural discipline. I hope this message segregation
policy doesn't render the SC2K area sterile, boring, and impotent. I want to
see the project on tape or CD, and up to now, it seemed that everything was
moving along at a fairly reasonable clip considering the scope.
If you go back and strip out all the messages that don't stricty adhere to the
SC2K project topics and address matters critical to its form, function, and
management, the sysops of this section wouldn't be scraping teeth, hair, and
bits of flesh off the glass ceiling and scrambling around for a bigger
warehouse. If I'm not mistaken, there were less than 20 respondents to Survey
#1, and as of the last message I read regarding administartive positions, only
three people had volunteered themselves or nominated anybody to serve in any
official capacity. Somehow I don't see how "thread cleaning" will enhance the
return of focus to SC2K.
We're not here to get answers or offer solutions to technical questions or
problems encountered while using an exotic piece of software. Not once have I
seen a message instructing a questioner to RTFM, or see pp. 108-119 of the
Advanced User's Guide. Most, if not all of us are capable mesh builders who are
germinating some unconventional ideas for models to be displayed in the new
burg, so the usual give and take found in other sections will most likely never
dominate the SC2K section. As I see it the focus never dulled, it got intense.
And while the zones and restrictions and charters are getting codified, the
multinational, multicultural, multi-disciplined neighborhood was quite busy
getting acquainted, offering the city some soul. I hope it continues in this
section as well.
I also agree completely with my quite disturbed li'l pal, JKJ, who wrote this
in a message to Jonas,
<<Personally, I would rather skim pages of flaming hogwash and catch a few
<<creative associations than separate things and lose all chance.>>
Once again JKJ has expressed a concept I can agree with. Segregation is BAD!
<<Regarding the StudioCity project, everybody lighten up a little. It's
supposed to <<be fun! I thank those who have put a huge effort into making it
work. Since I <<haven't had time to participate in building the foundation, I
will just live with <<whatever guidelines are imposed, no matter how strict. I
simply look forward to <<contributing something, regardless of how restrictive,
to a strong group project. <<Let's get this thing started – in ANY WORKABLE
FORM – and keep the <<excitement going. It will eventually mutate into
something larger and less <<restrictive, but we must start somewhere!
<<- Dave (relaxed – why isn't everyone else?!?)>> HERE, HERE!! (or should it
be HEAR, HEAR!!)
I agree 100%, and have nothing more to add …B.
PS – How's the young 'un?