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#Unix 486 woes

    22-Jan-92 21:31:23
Sb: #Unix 486 woes
Fm: Harlan Stockman 70603,2027
To: S.J. Vaughan-Nichols
I called Snitily's (sp?) r.e. getting gcc and X11 binaries to run on top of a "minimal" SCO or Interactive system. I was a little disappointed by the response, which may just show my naivite about Unix. They told me that I would probably have to get the developers' system for any Unix I picked, since I would need the system include files if I were to compile gcc or X11. I told them I really only wanted binaries, but there seems to be a catch 22; the include files are proprietary, so I can't get a proper compiled gcc unless I have the stuff to compile it on my own. I'm not sure I buy this. I was also told that I would need to have TCP/IP to run X11r5 (though I sensed some uncertainty in this comment). Anyway, If I need to get all this junk, I am back up to ~$1500. minimum, BEFORE I get the binaries for X11 (the developers' modules are ~$600 to $1500 alone, on top of the basic Unix system). I find this incredibly frustrating. I feel compelled to learn and develop in Unix, since I work in scientific research and programming, but I find it damn hard to justify spending $2000. for a new file system. I do a lot of cellular automata calculations (actually, lattice gas flow simulations), and right now I am using Zortech's C++/386. I'm able to use all my memory with 32-bit addressing, and by coding my inner loops in asm, my 486/33 is running 4 times faster than the fastest Sparc at work. There is some pressure for me to write this stuff in X11, so it will run on a wider variety of machines; but right now I tell the people who want to run the programs to spend $3000 on a 486 and run the code under DOS and DPMI/32. Pardon the bitching. I'm just not used to having to work this hard to get people to SELL me a product. I wonder if the failure to provide a reasonablypriced Unix will eventually kill the 80×86 line. …Thanks, Harlan Stockman…