CompuServe Messages

"Really, Commodore's position on this isn't *that* unreasonable. If Commodore starts selling A4000s with 3.1, there isn't going to be a free upgrade for everyone with 3.0. Why should everyone get a free upgrade to -11 Busters? Bugs are fixed in 3.1, just like they are in -11. How are they any different?" Bugs in software and bugs in hardware is comparing apples to oranges Dale. With software, and especially 3.0, most people knew that it was a pre-release and was bound to have a few bugs. But most of the bugs in 3.0 didn't cause major problems, and eventually most 4000 owners will be able to upgrade to 3.1 for probably a very reasonable cost. But the -09 Buster problem is a different story. CBM probably knew there were problems with the -09 Buster even before the 4000 was released. I even remember people asking about 3000 Buster problems a few years ago. But they let people believe that there were no problems with the hardware right up until the time they were forced to admit it. Even then, they were reluctant to supply the motherboards and 3.1 processor boards even if you purchased one of their 4091's. So the guy doesn't purchase a Zorro-III card right now, and so he really doesn't need the upgraded Buster. But what if he decides to install some 3rd party card in the future that requires the Zorro-III DMA? The company of the card can't do anything because it's not their problem. And, like you said, CBM doesn't give a hoot either. "The outside of the box doesn't say "Includes Zorro-III (with DMA)" in big letters. The 4000 substantially functions as advertised. And for a specific function which is busted, they'll fix it in free in the first year when you show that you need it fixed to use it, not to say to yourself that it is fixed." Come on Dale, DMA has been working fine with the Zorro-II bus, and probably of the Zorro-I bus for all I know. Are you trying to say that if you buy a 4000 with Zorro-III then you can't expect DMA to function properly? Even though it probably wasn't printed on the box, CBM did advertise it as having a Zorro-III bus, and people would expect a functioning bus controller chip to handle the DMA from that bus. If CBM thinks the Amiga users are fanantics, I shudder to think what the Mac community would have done to Apple if they had pulled the same shananigans. They would have torn them to pieces and left Apple to the buzzards.